cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/42161026
A number of pro-gun rights Republicans pushed back on the administration’s argument that Alex Pretti was dangerous because he had a gun. Pretti was legally licensed to carry one.
A war of words over deeply held beliefs erupted on the political right in the hours after a federal agent shot and killed Alex Pretti on a Minneapolis street Saturday, pitting top officials in Donald Trump’s administration against Second Amendment defenders in his electoral base.
At the core of the debate is that Pretti — who was permitted to carry a gun in public in Minnesota — had a concealed firearm on his person that eyewitness videos show federal agents apparently discovering and removing during the altercation that led to his death. Videos do not appear to show Pretti holding the weapon during that confrontation.
Kristi Noem sought to justify the killing by asserting at a news conference that Pretti “attacked those officers, had a weapon on him, and multiple dozens of rounds of ammunition, wishing to inflict harm on these officers coming, brandishing like that and impeding their work that they were doing.” No evidence has been provided to back up this account.
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Surprising no one, the fascist don’t want their victims to have guns.
fascist don’t want their victims to have guns
Neither do a lot of liberals.
Liberals aren’t shooting people in the streets, you fucking moron. How stupid do you have to be to make this a whataboutism?
Liberals aren’t shooting people in the streets
Exactly, they’re being terrorized, assaulted, kidnapped, and in some cases murdered in the streets.
Not to mention that, while these abuses of power may differ in scale, law enforcement and detainment centers have been abusing and denying rights to citizens for decades under either party’s watch.
I’m not equating both sides. I’m not a conservative, but I’m not a liberal either. Liberalism is a failed ideology, it’s a part of the disease that’s brought use here.
Being a liberal (center right at best) is not enough, and refusing to acknowledge the failures of liberalism will just lead us right back to this moment, likely under worse circumstances.
Brain dead take.
On the one side we have “no one should have guns” and on the other we have “only fascists should have guns”.
One of these results in a safer society. Would you like help figuring out which?
I would love to live in a world where no one has guns, but that’s not reality, especially in the US. Blue states are fairly consistent in their 2A restrictions, and it has left their populations vulnerable.
A lot of liberals have made it a point to attack 2A rights, hopefully the lessons we’ve been trying to teach them have been made more concrete.
States with restrictive 2A laws might also consider the disadvantage their citizens have been put in. In many ways they have been robbed of the right to adequately defend themselves from both federal para-militaries and white christian nationalist militias from other states.
You realize you’re sitting here saying a gun would’ve helped Pretti when he had one and it didn’t and they’re literally using the fact that he had one to justify his murder? Are you capable of logic?
If they were all openly carrying these cowards would have already moved along. A gun isn’t worth much if it never leaves the holster.
they’re literally using the fact that he had one to justify his murder? Are you capable of logic?
I appreciate the lib brain insults, maybe look inward, the government isn’t going to save you from the government lmao.
The only thing this story demonstrates is that having a gun just makes you a target for fascists. No gun has yet ‘protected’ anyone at these events. How does making yourself a more obvious targrt protect you? Your fucking brain is mush.
I DO support the 2A, but merely posessing a gun isn’t enough to do shit, and you fucking morons do not even begin to understand what comes next.
These cowardly thugs would not be terrorizing openly armed communities. Especially on private property where it’s perfectly legal to have armed security on the premise and deny unlawful entry.
