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    What more evidence do you need that hasn’t already been leaked? There’s not going to be a notarized letter which says “I, Donald Trump, Fuck Children.”

    On the other hand, there is a fucking birthday letter to Epstein where Trump very clearly does a “wink wink we have the same secret wink wink.” Like it literally calls his relationship to a known pedophile a “wonderful secret.”

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      The worst part is that it’s not his relationship that he’s calling a “wonderful secret”, that was literally public knowledge for decades. It’s the child fucking he’s all giddy and “secretive” about

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    The leading rich elite, Nazi or liberal, are all in there.

    They all should burn. We, the people, should take back our country from the rich.

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    Because both sides are implicated and both sides are run by and work for the monsters.

    Epstein is a class issue, not a “X faction of capital is less evil than Y faction of capital” issue.

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    George Carlin told us a few decades ago why, its big club and you ain’t in it. After listening to Sascha Riley’s interview I believe Epstein was the middle man, Trump was the ring leader. He explains why Donnie needs a diaper

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    Isn’t that always the case? Take eg JFK - this president was an enormous womanizer, but only 10,20 years ago people (eg his old security staff) dared to speak up. However: that doesn’t mean nothing happened , as the old saying goes: when there’s smoke, there’s fire.

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    1. There were also democrat politicians implicated;

    IIRC Hilary Clinton divorced Bill after it became known that he was there. My bad, the divorce because of Epstein involvement happened between Melinda and Bill Gates. Bill Clinton was involved with Epstein, though.

    1. Important party donors were probably involved (of both parties).

    2. Epstein most likely had connections to the Israeli secret service and was definitely part of Israeli lobbying efforts. Both parties are heavily involved with Israel lobbying groups like AIPAC.

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      Bullshit.

      Hilary Clinton divorced Bill

      *Hillary. And that never happened.

      Your whole “both parties equally complicit” is such a load of horseshit, too. Russian asset much…?

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        Yeah sorry, I did not, in fact, recall correctly. Bill Clinton was definitely involved with Epstein, though.

        What’s your answer to OP’s question then, if the “both parties are involved” explanation is supposedly Russian propaganda? There’s a distinct lack of comments who offer an alternative explanation.

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        That anecdote was Bill and Melinda gates, wasn’t it? I bet you’re right though, not an accidental mixup, but intentional

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      Israel is an absolute cancer. They have US’ leaders by the balls, they literally have nuclear arms pointed at America and Europe and they have stolen nuclear materials, they commissioned Epstein to pull all his bullshit, they’re real fuckers.

      I’m 90% they’ve infiltrated Apple and thats the reason all the big spyware software like Cellebrite is Israeli-produced

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            So the point isn’t that Israel can actually hit targets in the US, but that they have nuclear weapons in general?

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              No that is the point, everyone knows 'rael has arms. U ok? Thats sort of an odd takeaway you offered there just now

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                You claimed specifically that Israel has nuclear weapons pointed at America, but when I asked you about it you only linked me an article that said that they have nuclear weapons. Considering how far away they are, “pointed at America” isn’t really plausible even if they wanted to, and why would they want to anyway?

                Might as well claim that the US has nuclear weapons pointed at Israel, which is probably much closer to the truth.

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                  In no way am I validating or invalidating his point of “pointed at America” but in general here if anyone launches a nuke at anyone, EVERYONE in the flight path of assumes it’s coming at them. It’s how are extremely shitty, scary system “works”.

                  Check out the movie “A House of Dynamite”. It’s supposed to be pretty closely based on a What If and how decisions are supposed to be made.

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      Bill Clinton is a major stain on this country. Sure, policy wise he might have some good stuff in there. If he kept his dick in his pants polarization might not have gone through the roof. Im not saying we wouldn’t be polarized but lots of older people took sides and never moved.

      I just want the GOP to get their just desserts for trump after the shitstorm they cause about bill because they had nothing else.

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        Weird how the same people who apparently cared a lot about Clinton’s adultery don’t seem to care at all about the adultery and worse of Trump.

        And AFAIK his politics were pretty bad, too.