• some_guy
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    22 hours ago

    Come at us, Louisiana. We outnumber you.

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        10 hours ago

        Why did mods remove this comment??? I want to see what dumb shit they wrote. How are we supposed to appreciate good comments if we’re not even allowed to see the dumb ones.

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            The same thing that stops any kidnapper. If your point is “people can do crimes in California” then, yes, people can do crimes in any state.

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            Actually, you know what? Let’s game this out, since I get the impression you have a somewhat naive view of how things actually work in the real world.

            Here’s what happens: Louisiana fails to extradite the doctor, so Louisiana State Trooper Cletus and his loyal, but not-too-bright cohorts decide they’re gonna go to Cali and arrest them sumbitch.

            The thing you have to understand is that the way policing works is mostly, mostly through enforcement of consequences by the state. If a cop tells you that you are under arrest you comply because the state will levy severe penalties on you if you don’t.

            So Cletus, et. al. show up in Santa Rosa and go to the doctor’s office, because they know that’s the safest place to arrest someone. They show up and are stopped at the front desk. The admin isn’t going to give them access to the facility because they are not the California cops. The Santa Rosa PD gets called and, if the State Troopers are lucky they are told to get lost, if not they catch charges.

            Ok, so that doesn’t work, maybe Cletus and Co decide to go to the doctor’s home. They bang on the door in the evening and demand he come with them because he is under arrest in the state of Louisiana. The doctor does not open the door and call the Santa Rosa PD who come and blah, blah blah. Maybe charges. If they are very, very stupid, they kick in the door and try to abduct the doctor, extraordinary rendition style. Maybe they get shot, maybe they get pepper sprayed, maybe the doc is a black belt and whoops their ass. In any case, now they are home invaders and SRPD shows up code 1 because the doctor or his spouse are on the phone with them already. This is serious felony time for Cletus and you can be sure the state will throw the biggest book they can find at him.

            Of course, Cletus and his posse know the consequences for failing here are 10+ years in California penitentiary so they are simply not going to try. Thinking Lousiana cops are going to go to California to cart off some doctor for an indictment is fantasy. If a California judge rules against extradition, the doctor is perfectly safe as long as he stays there.

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              you’re 100% correct, which is why louisiana isn’t going to send state troopers.

              Once they can indict someone for crimes that only count in their state, they’ll try to get the feds involved. US Marshalls, border patrol, ice, some junta of shitbags.

              I wish this was some kind of fantasy but it’s what they’re working for with every move. Criminalize abortion providers in every state, criminalize the medications (even though they’re necessary to deal with all kinds of pregnancy complications)… it’s bozo. And that’s exactly what they want.

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              I’m not convinced the SRPD would actually respond in any of those scenarios. Even IF they gave a fuck, would they show up on time before Cletus and co. break down the door? If they’re too late, do they bother chasing the kidnapper-cops down? I dunno, you’re expecting cops to fuck with cops, and at least I have yet to see any of that, despite everything that’s happened already

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                SRPD responding to the call isn’t going to know those are real cops, they will be responding to a home invasion call and discover that the invaders are cops when they are already there and then they will know that they are obligated to stop the crime even if sympathetic to the bad guy.

                And the kidnapping might be successful, sure. But the risk for Cletus here is that SRPD isn’t 100% on his side and he and his crew get arrested and take major felony charges. There is a reason this didn’t happen in New York. Louisiana is weaponizing the law for two purposes: 1. to discourage doctors from providing health care to women. 2. And to establish standing so they can petition the Supreme Court to ban abortion drugs.

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              What about an assassination? Head in, shoot the doctor while he’s on his way to work, get out. No extradition would be necessary.

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                18 hours ago

                Do y’all not know what an indictment is? Just supposing that the state of Louisiana would send vigilante assassins to another state to kill someone accused of a crime. Please take a check on reality here.

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                  Texas has bounties on women crossing state lines for reproductive services. “Pro-life” rhetoric has, in the fashion of stochastic terrorism, resulted in many doctors and staff and clinics being attacked, murdered, bombed. So that’s actual reality. Check yourself before you look like a fuckin dork.

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    Cases like these should be immediately terminated as lacking standing the moment the GF dumps their ass—which she should immediatley and publicly do when such dumpster fires of cases are even brought