Here’s the funny part: the US had almost sole control over the military stuff up there, they had army bases there, for joint defense projects.
Now, many other countries are setting bases there. So they’ve gotta share the space and the soft power that came with having that space virtually to themselves.
Thats not the funny part, it’s the stupid part.
The US already had a base there, as you said, and there was already an existing agreement that they could expand it if the need arose.
But nooooo, Trump had to ignore all that and just demand to take the entire damn country away from its citizens so he could have some shiny prize to brag about.
So you’re saying the USA should focus on converting that soft power to hard power?
They should focus on the military at home killing their own people
They have ICE doing that pretty effectively.
Right, the USA can’t do Cuba or Greenland when Minnesota is the enemy
“You can fuck right off, dontcha know?” - Minnesota, probably
Not too far off:
“To ICE, get the fuck out of Minneapolis. We do not want you here.” Mayor Jacob Frey
No, that they had all the access to the arctic circle they could ever want, without any pushback or competition, or any added cost of running a territory for that matter.
C’mon Carney. If they go we’re all but goners too. Our only hope would be getting nukes and (somehow) not being invaded before they’re finished.
Best news yet. We need to take every threat seriously and kick maga ass.
Just to clarify: Germany is sending 13 people to survey the defensive situation in Greenland.
Edit: Here’s a (German) source.
A tripwire force, basically. Albeit small even for that purpose.
Uhm.
That’s very alarming. That implies there is actual intelligence Trump is going to send troops there.
What the absolute fuck.
The intelligence is all over the papers my dude. Diplomatic talks between the US and Denmark keep breaking down because he keeps demanding they hand over Greenland. The US committing war crimes daily. They just kidnapped a sitting head of state. Trump has openly said that he does not consider himself to be bound by any form of international law or obligation. The US withdrew from several hundred international organizations and agreements (basically everything they were party to that wasn’t a trade agreement). Trump and members of his admin have repeatedly affirmed that military options are on the table as far as Greenland is concerned. Trump let slip that his primary reason for wanting to annex them is that “It’s important, psychologically, to me” (read “I need to map paint in order to feel like my useless and pathetic grift of a life actually meant something.”)
What more do you fucking want?
I don’t need anything else. But trump has a reputation of being dishonest and childish.
That’s too simplistic a reading of how Trump behaves.
Trump is a liar and a conman. That much is true, and proven. He is, in many ways, one of the biggest liars in the world.
But he’s also really bad at it. Trump is, beneath everything else, a walking ball of id. He is a textbook example of what you get when insecurity and instant gratification meet. He is pure, unbridled impulse. And he’s really, really stupid. As a result of that, he has a very, very strong tendency to constantly say the quiet part loud. You see this time and time again. The GOP will concoct some elaborate lie to explain what they’re doing, and then Trump will just blunder into the room and openly admit what’s really happening. Because he can’t stop himself.
To be super reductive about it (it is more complicated than this, but we don’t have all day), a good rule of thumb is that if Trump tells you what he wants, he’s speaking from the heart. It’s when he tells you why he wants it that he’s usually lying. Not always - “It’s psychologically important to me” is so nakedly earnest, and so utterly damning, that it’s impossible to believe anyone would concoct it as a lie - but often enough. But when Trump says “I want…”, whatever follows will usually be the truth. He is ruled by his desires, and has no ability to keep himself from spouting them openly.
Trump’s clearly committed to the goal. Multiple people are organising around it, and he’s consistently talking about it.
I hope Sweden is sending submarines
I think a Nimitz class sent to the bottom would help spark a regime change in the US
I actually think that would be really good for Trump, if it actually happened. Remember what happened to W’s approval after 9/11, and what kinds of new powers were passed even with the then more functional democracy.
The US wasnt seen as the agressor by the genral public in that instance.
This is much more “fuck around and find out”
Will red America really see it that way? Blue America will still hate Trump, of course.
Probably, its their proud soldiers going of to war… And losing. Or maybe still winning but at a high cost
Military embarrassments is a pretty terminal for regimes, Argentina post Falklands war comes to mind
Either way, pretty sure the red states would like him more if he won with no consequences
