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    Anachists and their Diaspora have been tremendously disappointing to me.

    I were navigating Anarchism/communism before this Ukraine proxy war (and got banned both places for being a member of the other).

    However, it rather quickly became obvious that anarchism was compromised by the liberal Narrative, and they went all in on the narrative constructed by their Oligarchic overlords ‘enemy’, Russia. I was shocked by the level of ignorance on propaganda/manipulation, stupidity/emotional reactions and a horrifying level of accepted propaganda in that group. I fled over to the “Tankies” here on lemmy.ml - I’m a refugee @ real Communists. Cool people.

    I still don’t know what Kropotkin and Engels had in common, but the level of geo-political awareness is over thew top, and comparably, Anarchists/anarchism is - currently - an intellectual joke. They will keep being the controlled angry arm of the Deep State, refuse to believe they are, and feel mighty smart about their small controlled ideology, but really… They have been embarrassing so far…

    Oc there are anarchists that sees through this ridiculous propaganda, knows how the system operates, sees how their own communities have been converted into insane proxies for the Empire - a primitive lynch-mob. …but they are rare…

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    I wonder though if it isn’t different in the case where church and state are one. I don’t live in Iran so I honestly don’t know. The fact that the people who do are burning them down though… where in the west, if someone wanted to go after government, it’s simply not going to enter their mind at all to burn down religious buildings … ?

    Just spitballing, I really don’t know.

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      Mosques are not part of the state in Iran. They have parliaments and municipalities etc.

      There are plenty of buildings in the West which are part of a state though. For example Synagogues in NYC which are selling off freshly ethnically cleansed Palestinian land to colonists. But apparently just protesting in front of those is antisemitic.

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        Jewish Museum in DC where my boy Elias Rodriguez domed those two pieces of shit is another good example.

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      Downvote for thinking out loud and asking questions has no class folks. We’re trying to be better than the other place here.

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    I advocate removing churches (all religions) after America has a socialist revolution. In Iran since the churches are part of the state, it certainly makes sense to remove them during the revolution.

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      Marx & Lenin would have eviscerated your ass for saying this bullshit. This is what happens when bozos learn about socialism from quotes and memes on social media instead of reading theory.

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        bUt SurEly mArXs eSSay “oN tHe JewISh qUeStiOn” wAs jUst hIm BeInG aNTI-sEmItIc??!!!

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          People confuse Marx’s anti-religious stance with the position that the church needs to be actively liquidated. One of the legitimate problems of the soviet union was the question of how to decouple people from the church and its influence, and taking a more active approach in dismantling religious institutions backfired. This, thankfully, is a lesson well-learned by most ML orgs.

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      Not sure if people just repeat the same dumb thing because they saw it somewhere but Mosques are not part of the government in Iran.

      Also if people started burning down religious buildings at every government change there would be exactly zero churches in the Middle East right now instead of the old monuments in Palestine.

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      https://redsails.org/on-the-question-of-religion/

      There is no reason to actively liquidate churches, the development of the productive forces inherently leads to the withering of religion, taking an active posture against it causes more harm than good. I Active intervention is only neccesary when there is a religious leader trying to destabilize like the dalai lama.