Uh… where exactly? There’s not a lot of land that isn’t claimed by someone already and unless you’re willing to hold whatever new nation you’re trying to form by force, you’ll have a hard time. Trying to do that in the middle of the Gobi Dessert probably only requires a few million in weapons, but water is gonna be hard to come by. Trying it inside the USA is gonna be pretty tough. I’ll suggest buying an island for a couple billion, spend another couple billion on infrastructure and then just a kinda lay-low government, where you don’t officially claim independence, but also don’t really follow the laws you don’t like (see Epstein island for more details).
A lot of micronations were formed in the micronational head of state’s property, so as long as you have your own property to claim as a micronation, then you’re good.
Again I ask… where exactly? Inside the USA your micro nation is going to have to either follow all the laws of the local, regional and national governments, or be prepared to defend it by force.
Yes. Power’s biggest fear is irrelevance. That’s why power in distress is so violent- it’s forcing it’s relevance into a place where it doesn’t provide anything and is not needed or wanted. At this point all the institutions in the US are a hindrance to the people and the people can manage much better without them.
Yes, and it will need a militia to protect itself, and a Declaration of Independence. You should focus on distributing food and arms to the people and constructing a leadership apparatus for your new nation.
The FBI calls those cults, usually with cause.
Frankly, at the point we’re already at, this time around the cause would be “We don’t like competition”.
Some say it’s useless to overthrow a government, because the first thing people do after is create another government. It’s highly unusual to skip the first step, though.
Only if you want to be raided by federal agents.
What if you form that micronation under a very very different name that DOESN’T in any way say America?
They don’t care what you call it, they’ll kill you anyway. Violence is typically the only way for any nation to get new land, and nobody is currently more equipped for violence than the US Government.
Is it on American soil? If so, the name is irrelevant.
If by “government” you mean “autonomous anarchist community” and by “micronation” you mean “freely associated federated network of autonomous communities” and by “United States” you mean “the stolen land occupied by the AmeriKKKan settler-colonial project”, then yes.
I mean a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia
I don’t fly the Cascadia flag for nothing. Cascadia now!
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Why “alternative government”?
This current “government” is illegitimate and we should redo the 2024 election and swear-in the rightful government of the people then remove these traitors that are illegally occupying Capitol Hill
How are we gonna convince the government to recount all the votes in the 2024 election? Should we use force? NOT fedposting, just asking.
Why would you even try to convince an illegitimate gonverment to do something?
Like if the confederates took over DC, do you send them a nice letter?
Its illegitimate, and people who sworn an oath to the constitution should really try to take back control and restore constitutional order. As in the way the Union dealt with the confederates. The Union held an election during the civil war, they simply just don’t count the electors from the rebel states, so we just do the same right now. Pro-constitution states should get together, hold federal elections in those states, and declare those elected officials to be the real United States government.
Edit: Legal disclaimer, this is hypothetically speaking of course, I do not condone violence
What about the current Trump administration?
He’s just another Jefferson Davis
Then should we form an alternative government as a micronation?
I don’t think she meant “micro”, no.
Is someone just discovering anarchism?
I mean a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia. I support micronations.
No, but as a whole nation.
I think you’re asking about secession, and at what point that becomes necessary?
Texas threatens this every decade or so. The problem is that any individual states outside of New York and California would not be able to subsist. These two states because they have massive economies and are coastal, others because they are landlocked between.
The first order of business down this road is finding legal ways to stop the flow of money from these states to the federal government and starving them, which will invariably destroy the country as a whole.
It’s complicated.
I don’t mean secession - I mean like a micronation like Molossia or Austenasia, for example
I mean both of these micronations do claim to have seceded from the nations that surround them. And unless you’re thinking of starting a micronation in one of the few remaining terrae nullius, i.e. land so shit that no one wants it, secession is a necessary part of building a new nation.
IMO nationalism is a way for weirdos to roleplay as important people and isn’t really a serious solution for anything. Micronations are just a pitiful facsimile of that. Like even people who like states see micronations as not worth recognizing.
Any state would have to secede first.
Just tell the AI to pretend he’s a benevolent ruler and do what he says.
