Moore Threads just pulled the wraps off its next-gen Flower Harbor architecture — and the numbers are brutal for US chip dominance. 15× gaming performance. 50× ray tracing. 64× AI compute. 4× memory capacity.
Their Lushan gaming GPU jumps straight into modern territory with full DirectX 12 Ultimate, AI-driven rendering, and next-gen ray tracing — areas US firms claimed China would never master. Meanwhile, the Huashan AI GPU is being benchmarked directly against NVIDIA Hopper and Blackwell, matching bandwidth, pushing memory access beyondB200, and scaling to 100,000-GPU clusters.
Even today’s Moore Threads S5000 is already hitting 1,000 tokens/sec decode and 4,000 tokens/sec prefill on DeepSeek models — squarely in Hopper territory.
Washington bet export controls would freeze China in time. Instead, Chinese companies rebuilt the stack, rewrote the architecture, and are now sprinting.
I’d be interested to see if that translates to real world performance. Intel and even AMD to some extent have struggled with stable drivers that can deliver all the raw performance of the cards as soon as maybe 10 years ago, or less than 5 in the case of Intel in particular.
After China surpasses and start leading in most critical tech industries, the US economy and dollar dominance will simply fall apart (as it may be happening with the AI bubble right now). Why trading for dollars when you can simply import every critical tech, with superior performance and cheaper cost, from Chinese markets?
It makes sense why the US is becoming desperate and willing to wage wars and implement trading chaos to try to disrupt supply chains in order to slow down Chinese progress. But all this effort will lead to nothing as China is always one step ahead of the US.
Expect more handheld PCs with homegrown Linux distro preinstalled in the future.
With the way Moore Threads presented their GPUs before and what really came out of it, I would be cautious with their claims.
But, all power to them, and I hope my skepticism will be relieved when we see more benchmarks.
I know nothing, but i heard the main problem is actually the drivers that hamper the gpu’s ability? Basically they would be theoretically that strong if the drivers are set (for video games at least)
That’s just what i heard from reddit and all that
I’m not super deep into it, but as far as I know, it’s not just drivers, but supported instructions etc.
Though drivers certainly played a big role in sinking them.
Another great win for socialism
Let one million steam machines bloom!
if these promises are true
That if has been doing some heavy lifting of cope for decades for the West.
PRC = So. Many. Sputniks
I feel it’s incredible the empire is surprised by these types of developments, and wonder if leadership and corporate class have been well aware, all along, but strung along the petit bourgeois and poor to extract more wealth?
Honestly I think they’ve been drinking their own kool-aid, I think they genuinely believed China has no capacity for innovation without the intervention of western capital.
This, 100%. The constant propaganda of the red scare and yellow peril genuinely has entire generations in the US so drunk on American exceptionalism that they genuinely can’t comprehend the idea of being outcompeted.
The ruling class isn’t secretly genius. They’re rich because they’re ruthless, but they’re just as susceptible to propaganda and conditioning by society as the average pleb
White supremacy is a hell of a drug.
are chinese gpu’s banned in the states yet?
