I mean, on its own I hate my sleep, cause I have chronic nightmares, I thrash about and make a mess, and my thanatophobia is obviously triggered by it.
But also just the concept in general kinda bugs me. At least for the long amount of time it takes. It’s at least 6 hours of sleep every day. And I could really use those 6 hours. Maybe I’d fill to fit it like a fish moced to a larger fish tank, but in any case if I could simply relax for that time and then use the other 18 hours of the day to be productive, id love that. But I unfortunately can’t combine recreation and sleep at the same time. And it’s just…ugh. I don’t know.
Overall I just really wish I could go without something. I wish I could forgo the need for recreation, or the need to sleep, or the need to work, or the need to study marxism [by learning much much easier, not giving up], or my enjoyment for hobbies. I’m not necessarily stretched thin. More just…idk. Marat would work 21 hours a day on his work Chains of Slavery, but the coffee intake nearly killed him, so idk. Also i have anxiety over coffee [i dont like that it messes with my head. Also when people have too much it seems to null its effectiveness] but i know that would help with my problem.
Sleep is one of the most important things for your health. Don’t fall prey to capitalist grind culture. Your company can replace you if you die from the consequences of lack of sleep, but your family can’t.
Here’s a really great set of tips on getting good sleep with empirical evidence:
- list form: https://blueprint.bryanjohnson.com/pages/blueprint-protocol#sleep
- video form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk9p3dhMYdk
I’m working through the list myself to feel better more consistently.
Good sleep feels great! It makes me feel happier, more patient, more sociable, get sick less, and love life more.
Bad sleep quality is unavoidable in the dorm due to co2 and humidity. I am cooked

Regular ventilation helps with CO2 and extensive humidity.
Yeah good luck with that in the winter when half the dorm is sick including all 3 of my roommates. We only open the window at noon or in the evening. Then like 16 hours of breathing the same air in the room over and over again (if we stay in the room that is) I am truly cooked.
Sorry to hear that, that sounds really bad.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
Sleep is good, actually, because if we didn’t have to sleep, workday would be 16 hours.
I guess that’s a fair thought.
Learn sleep hygiene (this may also involve increasing exercise) and self-CBT/DBT (especially look up on anxiety disorders and also consider mindfulness if you don’t have PTSD, the latter needs its own treatment); treat both like skills to learn such as playing the guitar - you will need to read a lot around both to get working theoretical knowledge to find what may work for you and then go through the practice of actually teaching yourself (including monitoring progress and modifying your self-programme as you go along). Best case scenario it will take minimum 6 weeks (though it will be a lifelong learning process like playing the guitar).
This is solid advice. I’m trying to limit blue light before sleeping, but even if I fall asleep, I wake up and after a nap, sleep eludes me until time to wake up, so I usually end up listening to something or reading, which probably isn’t great either.
Thanks, what you are doing is the generally right approach - if one can’t sleep within 15-30 min then do something that’s not overstimulating such as reading fiction (book or e-reader not tablet/phone) away from the bed for 20 min or so and then try to sleep again. But it takes a lot of practice; the aim is to sleep within 5 min but those with chronic insomnia even getting to sleep within 15-30 min is a win. Sleep hygiene itself can be relatively complex as the routine has to be tailored to the individual through trials and practice, and often needs to be paired up with sleep or anxiety CBT/DBT. (Stress/anxiety/sleep apnoea/menopausal symptoms etc can all contribute to insomnia).
https://www.nhsinform.scot/mind-to-mind/sleeping-better/how-to-fall-asleep-faster/
Often insomnia and anxiety has to be considered as areas where our “skills” need to be developed rather than immutable characteristics of the personal human condition (ie dialectical rather than essentialist approaches)
Even searching things like “how to sleep within 2 min” and treating it like a skill to learn over months of daily practice can go a long way.
I’m not generally anxious, but definitely occasionally situationally. The encrapified phone messing with my income is aggravating but hey, free patience workout I guess.
I would be interested in any dbt material you can link. Someone I know can use it and maybe when the phone is acting up until I get one, I can too. I used to have resources but I lost them. 😅
Cheers!
Thank you!
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Hate going to sleep. Hate being woken up too. Can’t win.
finally, someone says it. i don’t have any issues with it besides that i’m a light sleeper, but it’s frustrating having to interrupt what i’m doing to spend 1/3 of my day or more doing nothing. maybe that’s why i keep going to bed later and later
calm down tyler durden, but being serious here…in a book i’ve learned that letting you be stressed by the lack of sleep is worse than the fact of not sleeping…use the time that you’re not using to sleep to make something productive or that makes you happy, your body will make you sleep one way or another, just try to keep calm and everyting will be better.
your nightmares, by the other hand imo are something that your subconscious is trying to tell you, something that you should fix in your life
I hate trying to get to sleep, like if I could press a button that would just send me to sleep id press it every single night.
That being said I fucking love waking up then going back to sleep, and dreaming is one of the most magical things about being alive to me in general.
Sometimes im just tired of the earth y’know.
Sleep is a racket.
For me, thinking about life after the revolution cheers me up.
See, I feel completely different.
Sleeping (along with showering) is very calming for me. I feel safe, comfortable, and alone with my thoughts. It’s when it has to end that I get disappointed.
Lol, Im the exact opposite. Showering isn’t torture, obviously [and also very necessary, obviously. I take one every day], but I dont really enjoy the process of it. I do enjoy the feeling after I shower though
As someone with ADHD, forcing myself to shower every night is quite the task.
I can’t go more than a day without one - maybe two. I just feel too grimy and dirty and it’s extremely uncomfortable & irritating to the point of being very distracting.
Same. My AuDHD-ass needs to shower at least twice a day. I feel grimey the second i wake up
I like it in theory, but I wish I got more out of it. Often don’t feel sufficiently rested when I’m through with it. Not to the point that it impedes my ability to do stuff like driving, but enough that it makes me feel more lethargic than I really should be.
I like how I feel after a good sleep but yeah it really is a fuck of a lot of time that it takes.
Every time I feel tired over assisting a person in need, I had to sleep for a bit











