Spoiler > [Mike Johnson Trying To Be Hip Produces Incredibly Awkward Moment On Podcast](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/mike-johnson-shaka-hang-loose-sign-katie-miller_n_6925826be4b05f521dda926e) > > The speaker reached peak cringe in an interview with Katie Miller, Stephen Miller's wife. > > [...] > > In a preview shared Monday by Miller ― a former Trump administration spokesperson who’s married to White House deputy chief of staff Stephen Miller ― she asked Johnson, “You know who Jelly Roll is?” > > Johnson might have gone with a simple affirmative. Instead, the Louisiana Republican indignantly said, “Do I know,” and waved a Hawaiian “shaka,” or “hang loose,” sign with just the thumbs and pinkies extended. (One of his hands, however, had three fingers up.) :::