• shalafi@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        So you expect them to trash their career? This isn’t a job where you can easily take it or leave it. Imagine being under 40 and throwing away your retirement, starting all over.

        They swore to uphold the Constitution, and so far their orders have not broken that vow.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      That’s something trump and his people have never understood.

      They expect 100% loyalty, but treat the troops like actual shit. And this isn’t gonna be a temporary thing, he’s pulling NG from the reddest states because he expects them to be most likely to obey, but it’s just pissing them off.

      He should have spent the next two years spoiling the shit out them. Bonuses out the ass, lots of long paid optional training so they can bank money. Give them all the newest toys and gear.

      Build up that loyalty and then bring them in next 1/6 when you’re going to pull some shit.

      It’s really not that hard to figure this stuff out, the only saving grace is they’re comically inept

      • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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        9 months ago

        If you want some fascist stormtroopers then just pulling the NG won’t get you that. But that’s what they’re trying to groom ice into.

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      9 months ago

      Fun fact: during the Nuremberg trials it was determined that the “just following orders” excuse was in fact, not valid; and that someone always ought to disobey their superiors when that goes against liberty.

    • Bobby Turkalino@lemmy.yachts
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      9 months ago

      I think that’s unfair. Imagine being an impoverished American and one of your only options to afford a college education and healthcare is to join the National Guard, an organization that is rarely activated, and when they are, it’s often to actually help people during things like natural disasters. So you join, you take advantage of the benefits and can actually afford to start a family.

      Then all of the sudden, you’re stuck in this situation. Leaving will get you a dishonorable discharge, stripping you and your family of healthcare. Getting another job will be difficult. Or you can just clench your teeth and maliciously comply by waffling on your responsibilities

      • A_cook_not_a_chef@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        I think it’s unfair to have troops deployed in Washington DC. They took a gamble by joining and I can empathize with that. But them complying is furthering the fascist agenda.

    • MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca
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      9 months ago

      What oath? They’re literally just standing around doing nothing. This deployment is legal, the president is allowed to do it for 30 days. After that you might have some legal fuckery to try and get them there illegally but it’s above board for now.