• Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    If by grassroots you mean suspiciously funded by 80% out of district and living off her rich republican parents money to do it

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          Irrelevant.

          You’re implying she’s corrupt because her funding comes from outside her district.

          I am pointing out that her funding comes from her Tiktok audience - who come from outside her district.

          Are you willfully approaching this conversation in bad faith?

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            who come from outside her district.

            She’s from outside her own district. That’s the primary thing that shows her blatantly questionable goals. She lives in a challengeable district with a dem who should be taken out. And she chose to campaign in an entirely different one.

            Yes, she’s very likely corrupt. She’s unemployed, runs a sketchy campaign with astroturfing and refuses to address in any AMAs why she’s moving to our district later and why she’s going straight for the highest seat in a district that isn’t hers.

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              Wow, thanks for making me look more into this.

              So:

              1. She’s campaigning in a district where she will replace an 80 year old retiring progressive
              2. She has an extremely consistent track record of progressive advocacy
              3. Since when does temporary unemployment imply corruption?
              4. Her campaign seems almost entirely social media and local charity work.
              5. She has 200,000 followers which seems to have grown over time with several prominent videos.
              6. Her funding is tiny compared to the average $2.8 million spent by winners of House races.
              7. Not here to reduce a woman to her husband, just pointing out a cool fact and rock-solid evidence that she’s probably legit - she’s MARRIED TO THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE ONION?! The source of the Pultizer-worthy headline, " ’ No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"?
              8. With regard to #7 - there’s no evidence she “lives off her republican parents” - nor would that be an indication of corruption.
              She lives in Chicago, is campaigning in Chicago, and has *specifically answered this question, spoiler to limit the wall of text

              Abughazaleh currently doesn’t live in the 9th District. Though in-district residency isn’t required of congressional representatives, Abughazaleh said she and her partner are “imminently moving to the district” in Chicago’s Far North Side, explaining that they moved to the area last year on “very short notice” and had to take the first viable apartment they could. When the RoundTable asked why she’s running for the seat currently held by incumbent Rep. Jan Schakowsky in particular, Abughazaleh said her campaign “isn’t a referendum on Schakowsky” but does see the district as an especially good fit for her aim of disrupting the Democratic Party’s status quo.

              “I was already gonna move to this district in the first place, and it’s also historically one of the most progressive, on the cutting edge, influential districts in the country,” Abughazaleh said. “I can’t think of a better place for a campaign like this one to be received.”

              Source

              By the way, anyone in the back: did you watch the goal posts move? Did you watch us move right along, without any defense for the first claims? Do you notice how no matter how many times OP is objectively incorrect or uninformed, they just double down?

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                1. Since when does temporary unemployment imply corruption?

                It makes me question where she’s funding her lifestyle.

                1. Her campaign seems almost entirely social media and local charity work.

                That’s bad. Real world efforts are necessary. Giving campaign funds to charity is sketchy at best when you’re showing it off to pretend you’re morally superior

                She’s campaigning in a district where she will replace an 80 year old retiring progressive

                Irrelevant as the 80 year is retiring anyways.

                She has 200,000 followers which seems to have grown over time with several prominent videos.

                So? Genuinely hilarious how irrelevant this point is.

                1. Not here to reduce a woman to her husband, just pointing out a cool fact and rock-solid evidence that she’s probably legit - she’s MARRIED TO THE CEO OF THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THE ONION?! The source of the Pultizer-worthy headline, " ’ No Way to Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens"?

                I had not heard this. However, it will not change my viewpoint that she’s as this post demonstrates running an extremely questionable and too early campaign, as well as being an out of district plant by not even trying to have lived a real period of time in the district she’s planning to run in.

                She lives in Chicago, is campaigning in Chicago

                The vast majority of the district is out of Chicago. Also, she’s not campaigning in Chicago. She’s campaigning online.

                By the way, anyone in the back: did you watch the goal posts move? Did you watch us move right along, without defending the first claims?

                Any one of the points is enough to make her not worth voting for. Her being out of district alone is ridiculous. If she genuinely cared, she should be running for a district she actually lived in. You are blatantly ignoring how much an issue an out of district congressperson is. Pretending it doesn’t matter just because you like the vibes of the candidate. And it really is just that and nothing more, just vibes. She has zero lower experience in politics, no record, no evidence of capability.

                Especially when she’s consistently astroturfing reddits, it makes me question where her actual in district relations are. If she even has any.

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                  1. She has past jobs, and a husband, as you’ve learned and instantly made up bullshit about
                  2. That’s BAD? Campaign financing is almost exclusively used for shit like billboards, TV ads, and wealthy silver spoon galas and you think it’s bad that she’s using hers for charity? What the fucking bad faith, Batman.

                  Almost all congresmen have extremely blatantly obvious corruption and political bribery, and you’re just pulling absolute bad faith bullshit from thin air about how giving crowd-funded money to charity is a bad thing.

                  Get the fuck out of here. Unbelievable.

                  The fact is she has a large social media presence that explains her funding, her campaign strategy, and her so-called “astroturfing”. Which, again - if you gain a large part of your political support from an organic social media presence primarily focused on progressive politics, that’s the goddamn definition of grassroots, the literal fucking origin and opposite of the term “astro-turf.”’

                  Especially when she’s consistently astroturfing reddits, it makes me question where her actual

                  Ohhh, you still give a shit about Reddit. Okay, now I understand the type of conversation this is. L, O, fucking, L.

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                    That’s BAD? Campaign financing is almost exclusively used for shit like billboards, TV ads, and wealthy silver spoon galas and you think it’s bad that she’s using hers for charity? What the fucking bad faith, Batman.

                    Yes. It’s buying votes. Giving people food sith the clear implication of asking them to vote for her.

                    Ohhh, you still give a shit about Reddit. Okay, now I understand the type of conversation this is. L, O, fucking, L.

                    So her astroturfing is irrelevant just because it’s on reddit. Ah, you’re that sort of person. I don’t even have reddit downloaded anymore; you’re making a bold assumption on that front.

                    Almost all congresmen have extremely blatantly obvious corruption and political bribery, and you’re just pulling absolute bad faith bullshit from thin air about how giving crowd-funded money to charity is a bad thing.

                    This is pure what aboutism. Seriously? You’re seriously pulling what aboutism?

                    The fact is she has a large social media presence that explains her funding, her campaign strategy, and her so-called “astroturfing”.

                    Yeah surely swarms of people saying only good things about her and drawing 5x more engagement on city specific subreddits than other posts is just people loving her.

                    I did not instantly make up bullshit about her husband. And additionally, “past jobs” are not important, past political experience is important.