feel free to list other window managers you’ve used.
I have been happy with bspwm, but considering trying something else. I love its simplicity and immense customizability. I like that it is shell scriptable, but it is not a deal breaker feature for me.
I like how the binary split model makes any custom partition possible.
i3 and sway
i3 is what I’ve been using the past few years. I’ve tried others, but I always end back up with i3 as I’ve found nothing else to be as simple and efficient for my workflow, with 12 workspaces across 2 monitors.
i3 until the day I die
Edit: Why? Because I love how easy it is to get working, it’s a nice balance between features and simplicity for me, and IPC features are great for some QoL plugins. Its configuration file format is simple enough, I like lua with wezterm and neovim but I don’t really see the point with a WM, I just need to see my windows when I want, the way I want, and to switch to others.
Can you list some QoL mods for i3? I have been using autotiling for the last few months and it’s great.
I too would be interested to know what plugins you use.
I love i3 and have used it for years and find myself fruitlessly using the most common keybinds in windows at work.
But my gripes over i3 are:
- If I don’t know the name of the command, say a specific settings window, etc - then I’m hosed if I need it.
- It doesn’t come with a lock screen by default, you need a plugin for it
Here’s a list of plugins that may be useful:
- kitti3: quake style dropdown terminal
- tdrop: the same as kitti3, but I moved to wezterm due to kitty’s design choice and tdrop fits the bill, it’s also wm agnostic.
- i3-volume: integrates with dunst for me to pop up volume status when I change volume via keybinds.
- autotiling: A must have in my opinion. I seldom have more than 2 windows on a monitor, since I have two monitors and utilize other workspace, but there are times when I temporarily have multiple windows open and too lazy to group them into stacks or tabs.
- i3expo: I heard people have success with this as an alt-tabber with visualization. I just use dmenu and have scripts for window switching.
- wmfocus: quite useful if you have multiple monitors and multiple windows on each, instead of doing Super + h a few times to move to the left most window, I just use wmfocus and hop to it immediately.
- i3-extras: I just found this, perhaps it’s of use.
Regarding your gripe #1, I don’t quite understand? Do you mean you don’t know the command of a program to type into your terminal to launch?
And gripe #2, if you mean i3lock, I’m okay with that, I like that i3 follows UNIX philosophy of doing one thing and doing it well, and because of that good i3lock forks exist! If it was baked into i3 then this might not be the case.
For i3-lock, I currently use i3lock-fancy-rapid, it’s a weird name lol, but it is still dependent on the i3lock-color binary, which itself is a fork of i3lock.
HYPRLAND !
Need to figure out making it work with nvidia 😭
Works fine here. I migrated from Sway to Hyprland and it just worked. For Sway I had to work around some frustrating niggles but nothing so far for Hyprland. I use a MSI laptop with a 2070Maxq hybrid graphics setup. The performance of Wolfenstein New Order shows the nvidia is working ;-)
I don’t have any problem with hyprland on Nvidia, I didn’t have to tweak anything, it worked out of the box, I just installed it on Archcraft.
Here are my dot files https://github.com/visnudeva/dot-files
The WM so good that it made Wayland acceptable. Hyprland is the bomb!
i3 all the way
Sorry to be the boring i3 user but it’s a rock solid TWM. Plus I am using the autotiling mod and now it’s even better :D
i3 aswell, its great.
This is the way.
Not sure if this counts as a tiling window manager, but I spend most of my time in emacs in full screen mode. I can create, delete, resize, and swap my windows.
I’m not sure my solution counts either - I just use quicktile with default KDE, because it has the tiling bits that I need and the config file was simple enough that I didn’t have to spend a whole day setting it up. I need working memory for other things besides keyboard shortcuts.
That’s what made me start using EXWM (Emacs X Window Manager). With Emacs you end up managing “windows” (that outside Emacs would be called “panes”). With EXWM Emacs really is your desktop, and X applications run inside its windows. So that meant I no longer had two windowing models to manage (Emacs and WM), just one. There was a lot to like about that.
But… Emacs as a window manager, and using your development environment as your window manager, has other issues. Especially restarting it becomes more onerous. So I went back to i3 and am very happy. With a few minor customizations I can integrate Emacs and i3 very comfortably.
But another Emacs point vis-à-vis window managers is many committed Emacs users, require only trivial functionality from our window managers. I usually have a web browser and an Emacs window and that’s it, with occasionally something else running. I was pretty happy with Unity with crude tiling where I could split a conventional WM’s screen into two.
The main reason I use i3 is it gives me access to easy customization and has a windowing model I can work with, and one day I should be able to migrate to sway on Wayland without much drama.
Are you aware that Emacs can be a full-featured window manager.
Starting with i3 as my first, i tried a bunch of different ones. Xmonad and Qtile were the ones i liked the most but Qtile was buggy and Xmonad while working was super confusing to configure with haskell.
Also tried AwesomeWM, it felt a bit buggy to me in terms of window handling and DWM was just too complicated to patch and even with patches it was too basic
Ended up going back to i3, and then moved over to Sway.
XMonad. Been using it for almost a decade, and very powerful. I3 I hear is also good.
I prefer the way XMonad handles multimonitor workspaces, but left for Sway due to wayland support.
need to give it a try. I’m stuck in the past times lol
Same here, but I’m about ready to accept Wayland… Seems like sway is the best option?
I haven’t used XMonad in a long time, but it was my go-to for a few years. It was solid. The main issue is that you configure it in Haskell, and I don’t know Haskell.
EXWM. I am a longtime Emacs user so merging the concepts of Emacs buffers and X windows is a huge benefit. Only one set of keybindings to worry about, all of my Emacs window management stuff works for X windows too. One less external dependency to worry about too. In a new environment (like when starting a new job etc) as long as I have my Emacs config I am good to go.
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I’ll have to give it a try again. I played with it a while back, but I was happy with GNOME at the time. What underlying version of emacs are you using? native comp?
EXWM is not particularly picky about Emacs versions or performance. I used to run with nativecomp but ended up turning it off since I value stability over performance. (nativecomp was pretty stable but I had some occasional issues)
The biggest caveat is that you must be very comfortable with whatever Emacs buffer/window management setup you use since you will be relying on that even more.
I found getting to grips with window dedication was a great boon, and pays off in Emacs in general.
i3 gang rise up!
I’ve only tried i3 and it just works, so I stuck with it. After learning the hotkeys it never seems to get in the way (at least for my usage). Riced it a bit. Then some polybar sparkled in there. A wallpaper. What more can a guy want?
DWM due to it’s suckless nature
Pop!_OS 20.04 LTS… I love how it combines tiling and stacking. Sure I could use workspaces instead of stacks, but with stacks… I can use both!
I’ve also used EXWM and am going to give it another whirl after I upgrade to emacs 28 with native comp
Does this support independent workspaces on each monitor? That’s what kept me from using i3 on Plasma :(
I’ve been using i3. Nothing super advanced but the config is easy and being able to reload in place is nice
I usually use tiling add-ons for Gnome or KDE. So pop-shell or bismuth.
My heart still belongs to enlightenment/e17 but I’ve been using i3 for the past few years, and then hyprland for the last 4 months or so. It’s working out well.
Man e16 was the shit. If it played nice with hot-plugging monitors, I’d still use it today. It had some awesome themes, too.
What’s e17 like? I’ve truthfully never used it, though I daily Terminology as a terminal emulator.
Ahhh, e17 - I’ve got memories of building it from either cvs or svn at the time as soon as it was announced by rasterman on Slashdot.
e17 was my daily driver for a long time. It looked very pretty, before compositing was even a thing on the desktop, all without sacrificing performance. The biggest downside was that it wrote its configs as binary blobs which frequently broke as new development releases came out.
Wow… managed to find the original post from 2004. This is the slashdot news story that got me started with e17 nearly 20 years ago.