I could see someone who is addicted to hard drugs finding success with a program like this, and the phrase “if they want to” implies that going to one of these is voluntary and not compulsory, but the real question is once they are there, can they check themselves out at any time if they feel like the program isn’t working for them? Or did the government just trap them in a taxpayer funded insane asylum for the rest of their lives because they now won’t give them any psychiatric medication to help treat the antisocial symptoms?
Of all the RFK stuff I’ve heard about, this one seems like it would be his best idea and one that most liberals could get behind if it weren’t for his regressive views on psychiatric care. Getting people off drugs and back onto their feet should be a worthwhile societal goal. Getting people off of SSRIs and Adderall and other psych meds seems like it would be counterproductive.
I didn’t say that’s what you said, I asked you whether it’s what you really believe?
Suggesting that this is RFK’s “best idea” implies that this set up addresses the problem of drug abuse better than existing established rehab programs.
Suggesting that this is RFK’s “best idea” implies that this set up addresses the problem of drug abuse better than existing established rehab programs.
If that’s what you think my post is saying, then I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. His best idea is still a bad one, but it’s at least built on a foundation that has been proven to work, which is rehab. When I said it was his best idea, that wasn’t me praising him or implying that it would actually do anything more for drug addiction than current state sponsored or private rehab programs do. It’s just closer to hitting the mark than his other schemes would be to making Americans healthier.
Yeah what the fuck is that about.
It’s only sinister if they are not voluntary.
Anyone with a pulse finds this sinister as fuck because it’s obvious that no one would voluntarily participate in something like this.
I could see someone who is addicted to hard drugs finding success with a program like this, and the phrase “if they want to” implies that going to one of these is voluntary and not compulsory, but the real question is once they are there, can they check themselves out at any time if they feel like the program isn’t working for them? Or did the government just trap them in a taxpayer funded insane asylum for the rest of their lives because they now won’t give them any psychiatric medication to help treat the antisocial symptoms?
Of all the RFK stuff I’ve heard about, this one seems like it would be his best idea and one that most liberals could get behind if it weren’t for his regressive views on psychiatric care. Getting people off drugs and back onto their feet should be a worthwhile societal goal. Getting people off of SSRIs and Adderall and other psych meds seems like it would be counterproductive.
Sorry mate this is just bonkers.
Do you really believe RFK has just solved drug abuse?
Why not ask people who have been working in rehab centres for decades what is needed to mitigate this complex problem.
Where exactly in my post did I say this solves the problem?
I didn’t say that’s what you said, I asked you whether it’s what you really believe?
Suggesting that this is RFK’s “best idea” implies that this set up addresses the problem of drug abuse better than existing established rehab programs.
If that’s what you think my post is saying, then I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. His best idea is still a bad one, but it’s at least built on a foundation that has been proven to work, which is rehab. When I said it was his best idea, that wasn’t me praising him or implying that it would actually do anything more for drug addiction than current state sponsored or private rehab programs do. It’s just closer to hitting the mark than his other schemes would be to making Americans healthier.
Fair enough, my bad.
People voluntarily go to rehab centers all the time. Court-ordered rehab is often offered as an alternative or complement to jail time.
Voluntary rehab centers don’t rent you out to factory farms as manual laborers during harvest season.
True. If you are being rented out then you are not volunteering. If there are daily quotas and
guardssupervisors then you are not volunteering.But people do volunteer for rehab. It really depends where on the wellness retreat <—> concentration camp line these things fall.
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Why the fuck would you think this is at all voluntary? Why would someone who is doing fine on prozac volunteer to be a slave to “get off” it?