This hits home because I just got custody of my gay niece from Florida. (I’m not sure if it’s much better in TN with me.). She asked me last night why I cared about politics. I explained to her that my votes now shape her life for when she is an adult. I try to use that reframing with all my conservative friends. It’s not about me, it’s about her.
Unfortunately most conservatives are from the f*** you got mine school of thought.
Empathy really seems to be the main divider of leftist vs cons (conservatives.) Leftists care about other people. They want to make the world better for everyone. Cons dont.
If your Tennessee is like the rural Tennessee town I live in… They don’t care.
It’s a shame really… these people here in my town absolutely vote against their own interests and then tell you you’re a tool / mouthpiece of the devil if you attempt to introduce actual fact into the conversation.
Blows my mind how limited people tolerate of themselves.
Not exactly Rural but this gives me hope seeing another dot of TN blue on Lemmy. 💙
Yeah we are out here… as you know they’ve tried to gerrymander us out of existence… but we are still here. :)
Tennessee is pretty bad for gay kids.
So in a nutshell, it’s no longer sex ed, it’s indoctrination
Yeah, not sure what you’d even talk about if you can’t mention anatomy or contraception. I guess it’s good that there’s the internet where you can look stuff up nowadays, but it’s still messed up.
Oh, they want age limits and registration to fix that.
Some might say that sex-ed is indoctrination.
Those people are morons, but they say it
no no no, it’s only indoctrination if it doesn’t align with their belief structure. This is just an classic old fashioned education
/s
This is how you get more teen pregnancies.
In case no one else noticed in Florida, people are going to have sex no matter what. Not telling them how to do it safely is kind of like telling all your pilots they can’t have training, but knowing full well they will still fly the planes.
Except in the former they get more poor uninformed voters, and the latter planes fall out of the sky.
You’re giving them too much credit, I’d say. It’s hard to tell if this is 5d chess towards a conservative wet dream or just the usual christofascist nonsense. It sounds a lot like abstinence-only education, which has been a failing strategy from the Right forever.
which has been a failing strategy from the Right forever
Again, if it results in more poor kids with poor education and few prospects, that’s not a failing strategy.
Perhaps not for the platform, but for humanity, it is an absolute failure.
Oh, of course, but that’s the case for pretty much all conservative policy
It’s hard to tell if this is 5d chess towards a conservative wet dream or just the usual christofascist nonsense.
What’s the difference?
It sounds a lot like abstinence-only education, which has been a failing strategy from the Right forever.
If their goal is as Zorque just described – and it is, by the way – then it’s been a great success forever.
What’s the difference?
The stated goal of abstinence-only education is that young people don’t have sex until marriage. It fails at that. The (un)stated goal of the christofascists is probably keeping the future labor pool large so wages stay low, but it is at odds with the social goal.
You’re not giving them anywhere near enough credit if you think a super simple strategy of pandering to the uninformed bundled with restricting education is somehow “5D chess”.
Don’t be fooled by all the mouth breathers they trot out to preach their dogma, they’re the rodeo clowns designed to distract you from the matador stabbing us with spears.
I won’t say it’s all cohesive, or that within their ranks there isn’t dissection and in-fighting… but anti-education and pro-righteousness is the baseline that they all follow.
Boeing enters the chat. I’m aware its not a 1-to-1 analogy, but union busting, deregulation, and generally just shitting on education so voters vote against their own self interest I would guess has caused planes to fall out of the sky…
I’m not from the US but everytime I read Florida and DeSantis I am ready for the content and I know it is going to be interesting.
I mean, Florida has people who race away from cops and hide cocaine up the nose. It’s a wild state. People from my country really go on vacation to florida to experience this. Walmart is a highlight.
To be fair, a lot of the other states are just as bad, if not worse. Florida just has some laws that make criminal activity open record so that stuff goes straight to the news.
Yeah, there are booklets you can buy every week/month (I forget which it’s been awhile) that is nothing but the latest arrest photos and crime.
I don’t know of any other state that does that. That’s the reason why “Florida man” exists as a meme. But all those crimes happen everywhere else too. In other states and other countries.
A classic. They want more child pregnancies to lock poor families in debt, have more girls miss out on education and take advantage of them.
Poor kids with poor prospects is also great for military recruitment
Idk about everywhere else but incest is rampant in the South. The problems resulting is readily apparent, in the offspring of this horrible practice. I’ll never forget two adult children of incest I know who told me things I won’t repeat here, for their privacy, but the psychological issues and desire for patricide are palpable.
This is what people who are sexual abusers do to prevent their victims from having the knowledge to understand what’s happening to them and that it’s wrong.
I guess the kids in Florida will be learning from porn, with Florida teachers wagging their fingers.
Now bow to your master, governor: bow to Trump, you worm!
Okay,.it’s time.to start investigating these people for sex crimes. Whenever weird shit like this happens, it’s almost always the people involved projecting way too hard.
So what the fuck do they even talk about then? I mean when I was in school my sex ed was 100% just one day on VD, but even they had to mention Anatomy.
It also had a video showing how horrific (a normal, healthy) childbirth actually is for my class. Need a lot more of that. Your average adult woman doesn’t even know.
Our health teacher rewound the birth so it looked like the doctor pushed the baby back in lol
I can just imagine the woman screaming, “No!! Noo!!!”
What a penis
That’s what your mom said /s
Our governor is a pandering idiot
They only banned the word “fluid” because they think it’s icky istg
“Florida Gov DeSantis moves the onus of sex education to creepy uncles across the state so they can more easily groom children in their family”
The new rehash of Florida Man is gonna be wild.
