• @Veneroso@lemmy.world
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          When we had cats, I made sure that they were spayed and neutered. But they’re not good for the bird population. They should be kept indoors, not to mention how easily they catch fleas. It had gotten to the point that none of the over the counter solutions worked, and you need to take out a small loan to afford to properly treat them.

          • @iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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            136 months ago

            They’re not good for the birds, but perhaps even more importantly, the outdoors isn’t good for them. The life expectancy of an indoor cat versus an outdoor cat can be 10+ years longer.

            • @Worstdriver@lemmy.world
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              Growing up, (I’m in my 50s) we had an orange tabby that went indoors and outdoors as much as he wanted. The cat supplemented his kibble by killing and eating (confirmed by observation) birds and rodents in the area. He lived to be 23. Most cats like him that I’ve known all had lifespans into the high teens.

              I think you mean feral, as opposed to outdoor. In which case I would agree with your statement.

              I should add, that as an adult, I currently own two cats obtained from rescue services and both are exclusively indoor cats.

              • @iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works
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                46 months ago

                Backyard on a leash and monitored is very responsible! When people say outdoor cat, they are typically referring to cats that are allowed outdoors with no leash and no supervision.

      • @Veneroso@lemmy.world
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        Unfettered? No. Feral cats often aren’t cared for and live suffering lives. They have significantly shorter lives. They’re domesticated animals and aren’t suited to life in the wild. We bred that out of them. They fare better than dogs, but they deserve better.

        I just buried one that some asshole dropped off near my house. My dog doesn’t do well with cats and I found them scrapping in the yard. I pulled them apart, literally the cat had several claws stuck in my dog’s face. I went out a few times to make sure that it was ok. After about 20 minutes it was gone. Three days later I go out to see my dog barking at the road. It seemed like the cat was back. Either running away from my dog or distracted by her, it lay dead in the road. It has been run over by a car or a truck. Blood everywhere. I put my dog in the house and scooped it up into a bucket and buried it with my shovel.

        This wasn’t just some feral cat. It was friendly and had known the love of people. Unfortunately, that love wasn’t enough to do what was right. It deserved better. This happened about a month ago and it still bothers me.

        Get your pets spayed and neutered. If you can’t afford to house the results of your irresponsibility, then at least do right by them, and make sure they go to loving homes, instead of dumping them off at someone’s farmhouse in the country.

        • @qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de
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          Yeah being homeless sucks, what does that have to do with cats reproducing?

          Even if we assume that all unplanned kittens end up homeless, it’s still some twisted version of financial cat eugenics. “Your life will probably not adhere to my standards of what a good life is, so I will prevent you from existing in the first place for your own good. I will cut off your balls because your kids would be homeless.”

          Now apply the same logic to humans. I know we are talking about cats but from a moral standpoint it should make no difference, the degree of “bad” might change, it’s less bad if you do that to an animal and more bad if you do that to a human, but in both cases it’s still bad. I can’t think of anything that this logic doesn’t apply to, even when it comes to something we do all the time like killing, if you do that to a human, that’s murder, which is obviously terrible and if yo do that to an animal, that’s acceptable, because we need it for food to survive but it’s still bad. If we could get meat any other way I don’t think anyone would be opposed to that.

          If you don’t want to get castrated by aliens\AI overlords then don’t do that to your pets.

    • @kandoh@reddthat.com
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      People are allowed to own pets without knowing anything at all about responsible pet ownership. It’s ficked up.

    • @drunkpostdisaster@lemmy.world
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      You can’t get them fixed before a certain age and that cat might have threaded the needle. A friend of mine adopted a stray that turned out to be pregnant.

    • @Veneroso@lemmy.world
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      Yeah this doesn’t make sense to me. It does get expensive. My sister only neuters the males since it’s cheaper. Only flaw is if one gets out…

      • MentalEdge
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        Your sister isn’t doing her female cats a favour.

        Neutered cats statistically live longer and healthier lives. Fertile animals have health risks. Unless you actually intent to breed your cats, there is no reason to leave them unfixed.

        If you can’t afford it, don’t get a cat. It’s like adopting a pet without first figuring out whether you can even buy the food to keep it alive.

    • @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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      36 months ago

      I adopted an cat early this year, I wasn’t planning to stay with her but within 1 month she got pregnant.

      • baconsanga
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        What do you mean you adopted a cat and wasn’t planning to stay with her?

        • @ZeroHora@lemmy.ml
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          My sister found her, my family was not so sure but my sister argued with the idea: the cat stay with us until we find someone else to adopt. The cat won everyone heart in the end, when we got her to the vet to take some medicines we found out that she was pregnant.

  • udon
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    196 months ago

    Why do you sleep in front of your house?

    • @bitwaba@lemmy.world
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      376 months ago

      Divorced parents don’t talk. They just leave each other notes on their kid’s lunch box.

      Is joke

      Haha

    • @Siegfried@lemmy.world
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      The thing with a joke is not fucking up how it is delivered. Who ever did this choose the right way.

      • DrDominate
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        46 months ago

        Right? Like you also have to talk to your neighbor to learn their cat is pregnant.

    • @ruse8145
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      46 months ago

      I don’t have their number, how am I supposed to text them?

    • @Psythik@lemmy.world
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      Bruh, people under 40 don’t talk to their neighbors.

      Believe me, I’ve tried. The conversation never goes anywhere so I stopped trying.

  • @solsangraal@lemmy.zip
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    36 months ago

    if there are cats, there are probably raccoons and/or possums, i’m skeptical that anyone who knows this would leave that on the porch overnight