This will have been drawn from the work of Erin Reed Though its worth noting her only firm, DO NOT TRAVEL, so far, is florida. Though the rest are of course still dangerous.

  • Yer Ma
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    This has been the map of places I’m willing to travel since the 80’s… I guess not much has progressed

  • I’d say most places in PA aren’t very trans friendly. It might be better in Pittsburgh,Harrisburg and Philly. But pretty much everywhere else is a bunch of redneck pennsyltuckyians

  • @antidote101@lemmy.world
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    But lots of states have safe trains and railroads, there aren’t that many crashes or derailments of passanger trains.

    Joking aside, has anyone heard of The Green Book?

    Compiled by Victor Hugo Green (1892–1960), a Black postman who lived in the Harlem section of New York City, the Green Book listed a variety of businesses—from restaurants and hotels to beauty salons and drugstores—that were necessary to make travel comfortable and safe for African Americans in the period before the passage of the 1964 civil rights act.

    Maybe something similar could be done for traveling modern America?

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      i love this idea and i think that the biggest hurdle to overcome is s similar one that martin luther king jr encountered: moderates who don’t believe that they’re prejudiced.

      for example: when gay marriage was a hotly contested issue; i lost track of the number of times straight people would insist it was good enough that gays can have all the rights of marriage in domestic partnerships without actual marriage and call themself an ally in the same breath.

      there’s also plenty of examples of businesses happily taking money from gays while claiming to be allies and simultaneously spending that money on lobbying for anti-gay laws. eg chik-fil-a, gold’s gym, salvation army, etc.

  • synae[he/him]
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    I’m cisheterowhitedude and I hate going to backwoods places. It’s not that I’m in danger, I just don’t want to deal with chuds or pay any money that might support them in any way. So I stick to this map also

  • @dhorse@lemmy.world
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    As someone FROM AZ their has been a lot of positive change for LGBQT communities, but I would not recommend being out as Trans in public other than known safe spaces. Would love to hear from someone who is still there to tell me I am wrong.

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      Really depends. It’s a big state lol. Anywhere in Tucson or Flagstaff? Safe as safe can be. The valley is a mixed bag based on which part you’re in but generally okay. Anywhere rural is also gonna be pretty hit-or-miss, but for the love of all that you hold dear do not go into The Mojave, Idc how much someone loves Fallout.

    • @alphanerd4@lemmy.worldOPM
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      american problems are american, and not the world’s problems or fundamental to the human experience.

        • @dfc09@lemmy.world
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          That we can talk about problematic American states even if countries on the other side of the globe have worse issues.

          • @sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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            I just think its a little excessive to act like you’re gonna die if you go to the wrong state when the entire country is miles ahead of most everyone else in that regard. Those aren’t the places you’re allowed to go, those are the places you personally are willing to go because other places are somewhat more problematic. I live in one of these states where trans people aren’t “relatively safe” and I know plenty of trans people who live here just fine. Its like being afraid of cities because they have higher crime rates than small towns.

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              Where is this “miles ahead of most everyone else” coming from? Third world shitholes that are third world shitholes? Is this the bar you’re comparing yourself too?

              I live in one of these states where trans people aren’t “relatively safe” and I know plenty of trans people who live here just fine.

              There are lgbtq people living fine in despotic regimes too, just not having the freedoms of a normal person. Like when the government wants a reason to jail you for in the authoritarian countries. People are “fine” until you speak out or someone is offended or triggered.

              That isn’t “fine” in most everywhere else in the developed world but you do you. You “know” plenty of trans people, so all is fine and dandy.

              • @sanpedropeddler@sh.itjust.works
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                Third world shitholes that are third world shitholes?

                Its the rest of the world including third world shit holes. I’m comparing us to the rest of the world. There are many first world countries that are much worse for trans people as well, so I’m not sure what your point is here.

                That isn’t “fine” in most everywhere else in the developed world but you do you. You “know” plenty of trans people, so all is fine and dandy.

                I didn’t say everything is fine and dandy. I said its great compared to the rest of the world. If you look at my first comment, I explicitly said it still isn’t great overall. Don’t put words in my mouth.

                All I want is for people to stop acting like they’re gonna die if they go to Texas.

  • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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    Ohio is mixed. The cities are safe except when occupied by the fascist paramilitary groups like the proud boys. The rural areas are dangerousish

  • @Etterra@lemmy.world
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    Chicagoland welcomes you. Don’t go downstate though. The further south you go the more Kentucky it gets.

  • I’m not trans, so I can’t speak with full certainty here. But places I’ve lived and visited in the South, generally I wouldn’t label as outright dangerous. From what I’ve heard and seen, it’s probably more dangerous to be black in those parts, as some places in GA for example still have sundown towns.

    I’ve met a number of trans people here who don’t remark notably about safety any more than the typical “I have to be careful going out at night cause I’m not able to defend myself” which is not representative of all the LGBTQ folk I met of course and would apply equally to a smol gal.

    So while I don’t want to discredit you, I really don’t think this notion that you’ve been led to believe holds any water at least from my experience which is admittedly likely not worth much.

    But now I’m curious whether the LGBTQ population is by chance more concentrated in these “safe” states? That seems like a more enlightening metric on its own, actually knowing a demographical metric rather than getting just an ominous “avoid everywhere but here”

    • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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      I would never pee in West Virginia outside of a private residence. In my home state of Ohio I’m uncomfortable being in certain parts of the state unless I’m with cis people or driving through.

      Safety is a relative term. There are certain areas people avoid, maybe it’s a bad part of town. I avoid certain parts of my state as the bad parts of my state because hate crimes go unpunished there because what flies in hocking hills doesn’t in Cincinnati and vice versa.

      Also I avoid the proud boys when they match with guns unless I’m part of an organized anti fascist group that’s there for them.

      • @alphanerd4@lemmy.worldOPM
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        I linked the source. It’s just a map of places that havent instituted any anti-trans laws in the last three years.