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Because they’re good games and people are remembering the good ones and not the ocean of forgettable dogshit that it was surrounded by, as happens with all media
In a world of relentless technological advances and increasing AI anxiety, Rivera wonders whether gen Z’s affinity for retro gaming is connected to its stability. “It provides a constant – it’s not going to morph into something else tomorrow,” she says.
Oh look, the consequence of predatory modern AAA gaming coming back to haunt the medium.
Frustratingly, the article does not go into this aspect at all. It’s all just “look at the widdle babies retreating into warm cosy nostalgia from the scary adult world”
Games that were made and are fun to pay instead of a micro transaction stuffed physcological grindfest?
fun to pay
LoL I’m leaving it 🤣 mobile fingers.
Idk if this is placebo but it feels like the developers wanted to make those older games. Like you can feel the passion behind it. I get the same kind of feeling with indie games too. But in modern games it just feels like they just follow a script. A script that every other development studio uses. So every game feels bland generic or its just another live service slop glorified casino.
Because of the limitations inherent to the platforms back then (like how most games were single player games or were required to have some single play ability) it was harder to make these skinner box style games you see everywhere today. But exploitative practices have always existed, whether it’s dishonest advertising or expensive DLC (see Oblivion’s Xbox 360 horse armor DLC). Although there was more incentive to make your game bug free and complete right at release, since you couldn’t always count on your player base to have a way to download updates (if such a thing was even possible for your system)
Good games that the developers want to make still exist. You just gotta get out of the triple A shitpile.
(and even in the triple A space there are still developers that want to make games. fromsoft, for example)
triple A
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Low spec requirements, cheaper, more of them so theyre more willing to appeal to niche tastes. It makes sense even if I’ll never play most of the.
No microtransactions, low advertising etc
It’s because (imo) modern games kinda aren’t fun and there’s something nice about just loading up a game and playing - no cut-scenes, no tutorial, no microtransactions or season passes, no worrying if it’ll run on your old computer, no need to make a new account and jump through 2fa hoops and checking for activation e-mails and accepting ToS you didn’t read, no need to be online, no need to clear space for an 80gb install, no 4gb patch whenever you go to play, no two minute load times. You just get to start it up and play a game and have a good time.
no cut-scenes
Metal Gear Solid came out in 1998. Cinematic/narrative-heavy games are nothing new
Even going further back, games like Phantasy Star and Ninja Gaiden featured cinematic cut scenes of a type on the 8-bit consoles. It’s been a part of the medium since basically the beginning.
It’s just not what I think of when I hear retro I guess. But yeah, there’s no doubt heaps of exceptions to what I said, just sharing my general sentiment.
Command and Conquer came out in 95? Apparently this article considers PS2 to be retro
Absolutely loved playing the recent Tomb Raider remastered pack because of this. No HUD, no map, you’re just plopped into a level and you figure it out from there. Such a breath of fresh air in comparison to the overstimulating, bloated modern games
Modern games are so tedious. I don’t want to talk to every npc in the village looking for side quests. I want to go from left to right jumping on bad guys and avoiding spikes
talk to every npc in the village looking for side quests
I do like talking to every npc in a village looking for side quests, but modern games make it completely tedious by putting quest markers everywhere and taking the mystery out of it.
I can see the appeal in more modern games, sometimes it is nice to lose yourself in a world and be a cowboy or something, but yeah, I think something is lost, or maybe not lost, but just different enough that people still want those old experiences again because they offer something more modern games can’t satisfy.
Less enshittification.
Older video games series like Sly Cooper and Devil May Cry hold up very well.
Older games
PS2
I’m gonna crumble into dust like a forgotten skeleton in an ancient barrow
PS2 era is already like early modern gaming to me.
PS2 is just modern to me. The phrase “older game” automatically conjures images of the Atari 2600. “Game” makes me think of maybe around the SNES or early PS1. Any game with 3D graphics, voice over, tutorial levels, and full soundtracks, that’s just a current era game to me.
I’m old and dusty I think.
“older” doesn’t have a specific meaning for me, could mean Atari or could mean 10-15 years ago depending on context.
But “retro” is definitely anything before the 3D era, even though I played a lot of games before 3D kicked off in earnest. It’s just such a clean divide for me.
Technically I guess I started playing games when there were a very small number of 3D titles floating around. I didn’t have any of those though, and I upgraded from NES to SNES about 4 years after the SNES released.
A PS2 is the oldest console I ever used. By the time I was like 8 most of my friends had a PS3
I remember convincing my mom to buy a PS2 as a kid because we didn’t have a DVD player yet and the PS2 could be used as one while costing basically the same.
I have no proof but my gut is that Gen Z experienced retro games second hand through video essays or streamers. And they experienced the games at around the age that they’d be feeling nostalgic for now. So I’ve met zoomers who have like a phantom nostalgia for things like Mario 64 or Doom.
It’s neat
a lot of us grew up with Mario 64 DS, basically the same game but more stars and playable characters you unlock. got it in like 2011 when i was 7
Because old video games have a cheaper point of entry with fewer home size/workshop ceilings on its development.
E: old games run on any computer or phone, there’s tons of handhelds that’ll emulate em, you don’t need for real workbench to work on em.
It’s the perfect habit for someone living out of a tent, car, friends couch, dorm, tiny rented room or what have you.
Yeah you can go absolutely nuts ass with old games and spend nothing or almost nothing. Entertainment for tens of thousands of hours.
Because games weren’t as shitty back then lmao. Compared with gacha bullshit and aggressive microtransaction, some forgettable platformer with an intellectual property awkwardly shoehorned in is nothing.
The cries of nostalgia is vastly overrated. How would zoomers possibly be nostalgic about something that they’ve never experienced before? It reminds me of how millennial defenders of modern Simpsons would constantly accuse millennial classic Simpsons enjoyers of being blinded of nostalgia. Then the zoomers grew up and started watching the Simpsons as well and not only vindicated the millennial classic Simpsons enjoyers but are even stricter about what counts as classic Simpsons than the millennials were.
Tbf, many people are nostalgic for things they’ve never experienced. That’s a pretty normal thing
<-- me thinking about the ussr, which was gone before I was born.
modern “Simpsons” defenders will be sent to gulag
but it’s not just gen X and older millennials reliving their heyday: younger millennials and gen Z are getting in on the nostalgia too
This is stolen valor smh.
Jokes aside, its interesting that games are the only art medium that implicitly has a “timer” on it. Nobody writes articles if someone is watching a 70s movie or a 30s book. Neither of those things are even called “retro”.
Nobody writes articles if someone is watching a 70s movie or a 30s book.
You will get called a snob on social media tho
The article is okay but wtf is this
This is what we’re up against
Teams of lawyers from the rich and powerful trying to stop us publishing stories they don’t want you to see.
Lobby groups with opaque funding who are determined to undermine facts about the climate emergency and other established science.
Authoritarian states with no regard for the freedom of the press.
Bad actors spreading disinformation online to undermine democracy.
But we have something powerful on our side.
We’ve got you.
The Guardian is funded by readers like you in Ireland and the only person who decides what we publish is our editor.
If you want to join us in our mission to share independent, global journalism to the world, we’d love to have you on side.
Wtf is this pathetic shit Guardian. Begging for a 10 euro monthly subscription with this west wing bullshit. “Only you can stop evil Russian and Chinese propaganda! Just give us money so we can publish articles about how our intern looked through some trends on TikTok!”
Because they’re cheap or completely free to play thanks to emulators. Same reason a lot of people I know watch old movies.
Probably because of the influence that Gen Xers have on Millennials and Gen Z.
Yeah, this is the 30 year cycle. The youngest of gen Z is just hitting prime gaming age and the oldest are just barely aging out, and their parents are sharing old faves – Most likely the very best games from gen X childhood and college years.
Yeah.
Gen Xers have, unfortunately, a huge influence on us Millennials and Gen Z. Everyone wants to be a Gen Xer. They’re the original “nerd” generation and it sucks 'cause they have the most toxicity.
Didn’t read the article, but is it a lack of immoral monetization practices and a focus on quality gameplay that comes with only playing the best games from each generation?
