I feel like this person’s comment re the AMA deserves a wider audience 😂
I’m all for users migrating here but there’s so much vitriol from these users which I don’t think benefits a platform like this. I for one would like to see people leave their hate for Reddit at the door and not use this as a haven for their rage.
I’m all for users migrating here but there’s so much vitriol from these users which I don’t think benefits a platform like this. I for one would like to see people leave their hate for Reddit at the door and not use this as a haven for their rage.
He ‘doubled down’ because there was nothing else he could do. Iamthatis was meticulous in his takedown, and short of apologizing, there was nothing spez could say to make it better.
Then he should have apologized?
Absolutely should have apologized. Who knows what he’s thinking.
At least FlyingLaserTurtle apologized. Kinda felt hollow to me though compared to what he said.
It was good that they apologised but it probably the easiest thing out of the long, long list to apologise for.
Agreed, and while nice that it happened, doing so when you are just plain wrong is kind of the bare minimum.
You know that’s a big no no from his legal team.
His legal team more likely advised him to not comment on it. Doubling down is just slander / libel. If his legal team did tell him to talk more about it AND to not apologize, his legal team is big dumb
Agreed, I have no idea how he thought it was a good idea. I’m sure his PR and legal team tried to talk him out of it - or they’re all idiot yes men. Cards were already stacked against him and he just made it all worse.
spez also just seems incredibly salty for someone that must have everything in life, yeesh
well i didn’t expect much
well i wondered if it would be possible for reddit to walk back their decisions but it appears that they won’t, which sucks a lot
it was a fun ride for the last… almost 17 years. but I’m out on June 30th. I’m happy to make a new home here on Lemmy!
After seeing the responses, I realized Reddit is a lost cause and deleted my account of 11 years. My “exit interview” answers were… salty.
It’s unfortunate you went about it the way you did since they can still monetize off of the entirety of your comment and post history. When you delete your account, all your comments and posts remain. They’re just no longer attached to your account name since that is what you deleted.
I was a bit more malicious and did the opposite by keeping my account intact, but gutting everything from within. So now every thread I ever commented in has “user deleted comment” sprinkled all throughout hundreds or thousands of threads.
My account is now a fine metaphor for what reddit has become. Just a hollow facade of what it once was.
I deleted all my posts before I left :) I couldn’t be arsed to do it for comments, though.
If your account is still active, I’d suggest PowerDeleteSuite. It worked well for deleting my thousands of comments for me.
It’s probably a good thing, the fediverse will thrive because of it, and we’ll never have to worry about the horrible monopoly-on-communities doing something ridiculous anymore.
Yeah it was an absolute shit show.
Fuck you Steve (spez). You’re a piece of garbage human.
Post the entire thing to /r/funny and it will be the only funny thing posted to that subreddit in years
truer words spoken lmao
A fitting death knell for Reddit that their CEO would have an emergency AMA go down as one of the worst ones of all time. This week is going to be one for the internet history books. I’m really looking forward to Monday.
Let’s be real - I don’t think reddit is going anywhere quite yet, even after this. It’s going to get worse and worse while heavily active users and mods start to leave and stuff, but it’s shambling corpse will still exist for a long time in a heavily advertised hell scape with shit to non-existant moderarion.
The truth of the matter is that while the real die hards like us will find a home in places like this, the vast majority will not care. Honestly, I’m fine with that. Most the people coming in to places like that aren’t the ones driving good discussion
I can definitely see reddit slowly declining like twitter has been, but never fully dying. I do wonder what will happen with content creators who have their communities there, will they move to fedi or will they stay like many did on twitter?
yeah discord is a horrible option…
Agreed, it’s honestly kinda refreshing to have a space with smaller, more engaged communities. The conversations I’ve had so far on here have been much more enjoyable than most I’ve had on reddit in the past few years.
This is what I’ve liked the most about mastodon. Large communities do not mean better. Also the less content there is to consume, the more I think and share.
I’m already checking lemmy more regularly than I am checking Reddit.
exactly
keep the low effort users on twitter/reddit and it makes the conversations on mastodon/lemmy feel a million times more fulfilling and engaging because the people that are here actually put in some effort to join
That is 100% my experience with mastodon. A large user base does not mean better.
Idk what the point of the ama even was, it’s not like he was going to hear anyone out, and everyone that commented was just asking “why are you such a bad person?”
“Why are you such a bad person?” - because money.
I -think- that it was to try and keep mods around by ensuring that they won’t (maybe) take away their tools.
Yes yes we are working on mod tools they will be there “soon” - reddit for the last 8 years.
While i can’t imagine how much of a shit sandwich spez is eating behind the scenes. he’s just made it so much worse for himself. Dude should resign, cash out, do whatever.
i read the tifu he posted and wanted to laugh. talks out one side of his mouth about community yet they are forcing these changes through the community doesnt like without any care and lying about the devs who provide us with good functional apps to use reddit. thats not something someone whos trying to build a community does.
That tifu was a fake, it wasn’t posted by spez
I was surprised by how insane the ama got. Considering Reddit is a major social media platform, I expected them to act more professional and pretend to care about people’s input, attempting to make their users look like they are at least fine with these changes. I prefer the actual outcome more, love how spez doubled down on the allegations he made against Apollo while everyone blasts Reddit so much they can’t do much about it unless they start taking extreme measures.
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"[…] recording and leaking a private phone call—to the point where I don’t know how we could do business with him.”
Well, Selig did wait with leaking that phone call until he felt like all the bridges had been more than burned from Reddit’s side and he officially did not want to do business with Reddit anymore, so I don’t think that will be an issue…
In fairness, he posted the recording after Spez repeated something false about the call Selig was on.
@Knusper And, more than that: it shows the typical modus operandi of the Shitty and Pissy Evil Zombie. When people don’t fall for his bullshit, he tries to divert attention into something else, an intrinsically disingenuous tactic. All of that with the implicit consent of the company as a whole.
And as a self-fulfilling prophecy this justifies the recording. If you’re going to deal with a company that should not be trusted, you need to protect yourself, and that is what Selig did.
You can’t fire me! I quit!
Rip reddit
I don’t really want to delete my history, so I’m editing all my top comments to include:
>Edit 2023/06/10: Leaving Reddit due to /u/spez doubling down on API changes. Will keep post history for future visitors.
I doubt Reddit didn’t make backups of their databases anyways so this will let more people know what’s going on.
I get it, but leaving your data intact still drives traffic to the site. I hate that I’ll be wiping my account, but I’m not about to let reddit continue profiting off me while they’re so clearly uncaring of what the users want and care about.
You do you, but they don’t deserve your comments, your takes, any of it.
You know you can download your data before you delete it, right?
The problem is other people can’t find that data.
If Reddit doesn’t back down, I will likelky be shutting down my subreddit. But I’ll put it in read-only mode rather than killing it entirely, because there is useful information there and I don’t want to contribute to link rot.
Doesn’t Reddit deserve link rot at this point? And contrariwise, does Reddit deserve to capitalize on your work and the work of the members of your subreddit?
I wonder what your members might say if you put it to them?
Reddit does, but my fellow netizens do not. I’ve experienced way too much frustration running into dead links and deleted posts when hunting down old obscure information to willingly put that burden on others.
Would archiving it on the wayback machine or archive.is be feasible? Or is it just too much work?
