• @joemo
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    -429 months ago

    Trash opinion?

    Do you think that knowing a person’s gender at birth is not important? Come on man.

    • @gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      229 months ago

      It’s unimportant for literally everyone but them until puberty

      And from that point on its their and their doctors problem

      • @joemo
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        -199 months ago

        That data still has meaning.

        How you feel about your gender, and your gender at birth are two very different data points.

          • @joemo
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            -149 months ago

            Don’t give a shit what’s in your pants. I just care if we have a data point that depends on people being born as X and they have condition Y. If you change your gender, you change X and that may fuck with the data.

            So pulling an example out of my ass: if you are born male, have a condition for say colon cancer. You change your gender to be female. Your doctor does a colonoscopy and finds the cancer after the gender swap (sorry if not the best term). You’re now a female with colon cancer, but what if it was actually due to some genetic conditions from the male side? Changing it to female fucks with the data.

            • @captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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              Do you think that they don’t have your whole medical history? Like if they’re looking for a Y-chromosome associated cancer they’ll just pull up my surgical and prescription history and see “oh yeah that’s related” or they’ll order a karyotyping to ensure they’re correct because XY-AFAB people and XX-AMAB people aren’t *that^ rare of an intersex condition, especially as chimerism is downright common.

              However what’s much more common is hormonally associated phenomena that aren’t extremely well known to be such. The most famous example is that after not very long on hormones trans people’s heart attack symptoms change to our hormonal sex’s. For a long time it was so rarely known amongst emergency room professionals that trans people were more likely to die of a heart attack.

              But beyond this, that’s medical professionals and it’s a complicated discussion that’s currently happening in both the medical and trans communities by those who are affected most by it and those who are experts on these topics. What was clearly meant by this post was not that, but rather that people should feel 100% certain as to what is between the legs of every acquaintance and stranger they meet and that the government needs to know what each and every individual’s birth sex is.

            • @TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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              119 months ago

              So the one percent of people who are trans are going to fuck up medical statistics? That’s your pathetic excuse for these comments? The most generous one can possibly be with you here is to say that’s a huge stretch. It’s certainly a weird thing to focus on.

              • @joemo
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                I’m saying they should be accurately recorded so they can be accounted for. If you can’t see how this is a big deal, I can’t help you.

                I honestly don’t care what you identify as. Be a fucking apache attack helicopter. I don’t give a shit. I want people to be able data from specific birthd and have them be able to accurately correlate the data. I don’t want the data to be fucked up because someone decided that they are a different gender.

            • @PapaStevesy@midwest.social
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              19 months ago

              So adjust the data. That’s what science is. It’s always changing as we learn more about ourselves and our universe. Look, I’m really sorry that statistical conclusions drawn from inaccurate data aren’t helpful, but that’s true whether trans people exist or not.

              • @joemo
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                Adjust the data? How?

                You lose that data point. You can’t just magically fix it. That’s the whole point.

    • FfaerieOxide
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      29 months ago

      You had a gender identity when you were born?

      I don’t even remember having an identity.

      • @joemo
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        09 months ago

        Mhm so your sex at birth doesn’t give a shit about how you feel. It cares about the genetic factors which led to you being born. Would you prefer there to be an additional field which tells everyone what sexual organ you were born with?

        • FfaerieOxide
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          19 months ago

          Why are you obsessed with baby genitals? This is starting to get creepy.

          • @joemo
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            09 months ago

            Don’t give a shit about baby generals. I give a shit about accurately recording things.

            • FfaerieOxide
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              09 months ago

              Don’t give a shit about baby generals.

              Then you’re setting yourself up to be slaughtered when The Baby Wars begin.😕

    • Flying Squid
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      19 months ago

      Do I think it’s important for a medical doctor? Sure. Do I think it’s important for you to know? No. Why would it be?