Accounts on IG that I followed as a lib like so.informed, Greta Thunberg, and AOC support Palestine, but endlessly make clear they see Palestinians and the liberators of Palestine as strictly separate entities. It’s sickening going into the comments but at least full on Zionists get ratioed.

    • @cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml
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      Even that argument imo is conceding too much to the Zionists. Even if the Zionist entity facilitated a completely peaceful evacuation it would still be committing ethnic cleansing. What they are doing is telling Palestinians to leave or die. They are either supposed to agree to be ethnically cleansed out of their homeland or be bombed to death. This is not a choice at all. Anyone who talks about Palestinians evacuating ANY part of Gaza is advocating for a step toward the completion of an ethnic cleansing project, because we know that the occupation regime has never allowed Palestinians who have left their homes anywhere in Palestine to return. That in itself is a form genocide regardless of whether or not the people themselves are all physically murdered.

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      11 year ago

      Proof? Or just the plain old “they must have done it” like the hospital bombing BBC report, and the following disappointment when they found it was an actual terrorist organization in charge of the negligent and criminal loss of life.

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          11 year ago

          None of the links has any confirmation of the claims, further than that, it says “We spoke to several weapons experts but they said it is hard to tell what caused the explosion based on the videos of the aftermath”.

          Maybe hold off on the premature conclusions and avoid the BBC’s eagerness to please one side of the conflict.

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            11 year ago

            The last one cuts out the Israli claims and says that the attack was most likely made by IDF. The first two links were only provided as a confirmation that something indeed happened there. (And don’t pull the "but most likely ≠ 100% card, this phrasing was reserved for the case where aliens invaded Earth for a second and bombed random places. Humans physically can’t confirm a lot of things and our sciences are backed by assumptions here and there).

            In no way am I eager to please one side of the conflict, that statement was a premature conclusion on your part. I’m not pro-HAMAS, I only put my 5¢ into the thread because you seem like one of the unapologetic Israel supporters.

            • @idoubledo
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              It quotes a single source with no additional data. The last article also says: “While pro-Palestinian activists and official Hamas statements blame the explosions on Israeli air strikes, it is difficult to conclusively prove whether these blasts came from an IDF strike, a potential Palestinian rocket misfire or even a car bomb.”

              I think a more reasonable assumption for any denial by the Hamas is that they are lying, they lied about every act of war they made until now, even going as far as to deny any civilians were murdered in the 7.10 massacre.

              There were also reports of them blocking the escape routes to the south with trucks.

              So no, I do not accept your assumption.