And yet, Russia has invaded another sovereign state. You are suggesting that there should be no response to that, that Russian soldiers should be left alone to do whatever they want within the borders of Ukraine.
I hope someone breaks into your house with a gun and starts threatening you with it, just to give you the opportunity to follow your principles and not call the police.
Seriously, go home Russian propaganda. You’re not even good at it.
Are you daft? I support people defending their sovereign nation against invasion, and defending themselves against being killed by invaders.
When the aforementioned gun-toting invader breaks into your house, what is your response? Shrug your shoulders and leave, just give up your house and possessions therein? Where will you live? What will you eat?
I will definitely not shoot him lmao. What is the police for? Do you really think ukraine’s only option is to keep sacrificing thousands of people? How naive.
You know, if someone is trying to kill you, you don’t have to let them. You’re allowed to take any necessary actions to defend yourself, up to and including killing them.
In this metaphor, Russia is trying to “kill” (take over) Ukraine. Everyone including me would love it if they stopped, because war is in fact bad, but as long as they don’t, Ukraine is acting in self defense, and thus supporting them is morally justified.
You would have a point if they’d both been pointlessly agitating against each other for ages. But in cases where both sides are not morally equal, arguing that they are runs cover for those in the wrong. That’s what you’re doing.
So you think Russia should win and be able to do whatever they want to the Ukrainian civilians in the future? Especially those who not meekly accept this? Resulting in bloody crackdowns just as they do to their own citizens?
And then of course in a few years they just go and invade the next country like Moldavia and you then again think everyone should just stop fighting, resulting in Russia to win again?
That would be the result of you naive approach to Russia’s continuing aggressive imperialistic expansion!
Well, I do know for a fact that conservatives are (a) less educated, and (b) MRIs show diminished anterior cingulate cortex and enlarged amygdalas, which translates to lacking pattern recognition and dissonance while being hypersensitive to fear and disgust, so…
There’s functionally no difference between an American conservative and an American liberal save their universally-corrupt lobbyist masters, the pet interests they claim to support, and the color of their ties. You describe yourself as you slander them, not that I expect you to be willing to wrap your maladapted meat around that concept.
Unless, of course, that whole spew of irrelevant garbage was meant to liken me to a conservative-- in which case, you answer my question in the positive. False equivalencies, falser dichotomies, and braindead ‘discourse’ is all your kind is good for anymore.
Hardly. Between the Steele Dossier and the Pandora Papers, every single crooked motherfucker in the American government could have been exposed a long time ago. People like you just don’t want to hear it. Another sleeper filtering everything they don’t want to hear.
They only think in binary choices. Us versus them. They want the false dichotomy because it’s easier. The thought that both sides are bad can’t even enter the conversation.
They don’t look the same from ground level. Hence the fighting. The Ukranians would prefer not to be genocided, but Russia seems dead set on exterminating them. You know with all the Nazi style mass graves they’ve been making.
Also that’s some serious victim blaming mentality you’re peddling there. “Well if you hadn’t put up a fight your rapist wouldn’t have hit you. Why resist?”
Why is it so difficult for you to believe that some people might value their own lives over nationalism or the wishes of the ruling elite class? Y’all are so bloodthirsty that you would criticize any Ukranian that dare to try to live instead of wholeheartedly volunteering to be thrown into a meat grinder.
That’s right america, go help people kill eachother already!!!
Russia’s welcome to leave any time.
I absolutely love any Russian conscript brave enough to desert, and wish them the best.
The rest can die in a ditch, like the gullible tools of fascism their grandparents once fought themselves.
NATO is welcome to dissolve anytime. The Cold War is over.
They’re defending from an invasion that Russia could stop whenever they want.
So the answer is to kill all russians.
No, just the ones invading.
Do you regularly try to win arguments by putting words in people’s mouth? How is that working for you?
Just the ones supporting Putin & to be honest, no reason to limit that to just Russians.
All Russians in Ukraine? Yes, that’s usually the answer how to defend yourself against an unjust invasion.
Heck Ukraine is doing even better and provides very good resources to guide Russian soldiers how to surrender.
Or they could go home lol
Just the ones murdering children in Ukraine. So all of the Russians invading the sovereign country ofUkraine.
Go home, Russian propaganda.
Yes absolutely I don’t support people dying so I must be a russian supporter.
People are dying because of Russia. As soon as Russia goes home with you, people stop dying.
War should not be an option. People are dying because two idiots won’t give up. No country should support either side.
And yet, Russia has invaded another sovereign state. You are suggesting that there should be no response to that, that Russian soldiers should be left alone to do whatever they want within the borders of Ukraine.
I hope someone breaks into your house with a gun and starts threatening you with it, just to give you the opportunity to follow your principles and not call the police.
Seriously, go home Russian propaganda. You’re not even good at it.
So you do support people dying? That’s insane. I will never understand people like you.
So you’re in favor of Ukraine just laying down and letting Russia do whatever they want?
Obviously that’s not the only other option.
Are you daft? I support people defending their sovereign nation against invasion, and defending themselves against being killed by invaders.
When the aforementioned gun-toting invader breaks into your house, what is your response? Shrug your shoulders and leave, just give up your house and possessions therein? Where will you live? What will you eat?
I will definitely not shoot him lmao. What is the police for? Do you really think ukraine’s only option is to keep sacrificing thousands of people? How naive.
Most boring troll Ive seen in a while
I very much support people dying. Imagine our resource crunch if they didn’t!
You’re right, we should nuke Moscow and be done with it.
Naivety shouldn’t be an option either, yet here you are.
You know, if someone is trying to kill you, you don’t have to let them. You’re allowed to take any necessary actions to defend yourself, up to and including killing them.
In this metaphor, Russia is trying to “kill” (take over) Ukraine. Everyone including me would love it if they stopped, because war is in fact bad, but as long as they don’t, Ukraine is acting in self defense, and thus supporting them is morally justified.
You would have a point if they’d both been pointlessly agitating against each other for ages. But in cases where both sides are not morally equal, arguing that they are runs cover for those in the wrong. That’s what you’re doing.
So you think Russia should win and be able to do whatever they want to the Ukrainian civilians in the future? Especially those who not meekly accept this? Resulting in bloody crackdowns just as they do to their own citizens?
And then of course in a few years they just go and invade the next country like Moldavia and you then again think everyone should just stop fighting, resulting in Russia to win again?
That would be the result of you naive approach to Russia’s continuing aggressive imperialistic expansion!
Obviously not. I’m saying this is not the right option.
Right, you’re a supporter of killing Ukranians got it
Are false equivalences and bloodshed all liberals are good for anymore?
Well, I do know for a fact that conservatives are (a) less educated, and (b) MRIs show diminished anterior cingulate cortex and enlarged amygdalas, which translates to lacking pattern recognition and dissonance while being hypersensitive to fear and disgust, so…
Can’t expect much logic from that starting point…
There’s functionally no difference between an American conservative and an American liberal save their universally-corrupt lobbyist masters, the pet interests they claim to support, and the color of their ties. You describe yourself as you slander them, not that I expect you to be willing to wrap your maladapted meat around that concept.
Unless, of course, that whole spew of irrelevant garbage was meant to liken me to a conservative-- in which case, you answer my question in the positive. False equivalencies, falser dichotomies, and braindead ‘discourse’ is all your kind is good for anymore.
That’s neat conjecture and botherism and all, but I’m citing facts. You’re just speculating.
Hardly. Between the Steele Dossier and the Pandora Papers, every single crooked motherfucker in the American government could have been exposed a long time ago. People like you just don’t want to hear it. Another sleeper filtering everything they don’t want to hear.
When did I say that?
They only think in binary choices. Us versus them. They want the false dichotomy because it’s easier. The thought that both sides are bad can’t even enter the conversation.
The whole idea of refusing to cede land seems so insane to me. Russian and Ukranian soil look the same from 6 feet under.
Stop making sense. It hurts my narrative.
They don’t look the same from ground level. Hence the fighting. The Ukranians would prefer not to be genocided, but Russia seems dead set on exterminating them. You know with all the Nazi style mass graves they’ve been making.
Also that’s some serious victim blaming mentality you’re peddling there. “Well if you hadn’t put up a fight your rapist wouldn’t have hit you. Why resist?”
Why is it so difficult for you to believe that some people might value their own lives over nationalism or the wishes of the ruling elite class? Y’all are so bloodthirsty that you would criticize any Ukranian that dare to try to live instead of wholeheartedly volunteering to be thrown into a meat grinder.