T_F does not speak for anarchists who wholeheartly agree with the meaning of your message.
Power corrups, subjecting an healthy adult to anyone other then themselves is always harm. And even for the immature and ill we should strive to maximise their freedom and expressions.
Good governements can exist in theory but no nation on earth is even close to resembling annything but facism.
Personally i believe when a good governement will emerge it will not be any nation that provides it and instead be a set of logical open source ideas, concept and methods that may voluntarily spread amongst the self organised communities of people in however ways they choose.
Will it be perfect society… absolutely not. Bad people will still exist. But they will be smaller and less powerfull.
Magical thinking helps no one. Power is not a magic force that corrupts all who touch it, this isn’t Lord of the Rings. It is a social relation that allows people to more effectively work in their interests. The issue is that society in much of the world thus far has been structured such that a minority class, be they the landlords and aristocracy of feudalism or the bourgeoisie of capitalism, hold an effective monopoly. They use this monopoly to extract surplus and protect their property. The solution is not to wish away power, but to seize it and democratize it, transforming it from a tool of class exploitation into an instrument of social administration.
subjecting a healthy adult to anyone other than themselves is always harm.
By your logic, nuclear power station workers being subject to the safety team is truly harmful. An operating room being subject to a chief surgeon is another great harm.
Or is it possible that hierarchy is a useful social relation that has been reproduced across geography, centuries, and even species for a reason?
In nature, coordinated structures emerge because they solve material problems of survival and resource management. In human society, as the division of labor grows more complex, large scale production physically demands coordination, discipline, and unified direction. A factory, a railway network, or a hospital cannot run on pure consensus without collapsing.
The goal should not be to abolish all authority, which would mean abolishing industry and modern society itself. The goal should be to abolish class authority. End the subjection of people to people as exploiters, and replace it with the rational, democratic administration of things and the technical direction of production.
Your confusing hierarchy and authority, dont worry i also still mix them up sometimes.
Trusting and following a leader is not the same as being subjected to an authority.
If a chief is wrong then the assistants should be free to resist. They only follow as long as they agree with the direction.
About abolishing major parts of modern industry and society. uhm in my wildest dreams maybe. But realistically we are better of evolving things slowly
There is no magic involved in “power corrupts”, its just a way to reference the mental illnesses that emerge in people when leadership stops being contested.
But i know the community i am in, i am not really here to fight tankies, that just results in stale mate. in many ways we overlap and fight the same abstracted evils really as i welcome the resistancd against the usa. My comments are intended for other inspiring anarchists who dont know what tankies are about yet frequently end up confused when sharing opinions that they tought where aligned with the opinions expessed in the content featured on ml. Because really, many memes here are delighfully refreshing for anti-nationalists.
Even anarchists support various proposed sorts of governments.
What you are doing is simply ruining propaganda in support of destroying and subjugating the enemies of your empire under the guise of ‘all states/governments are bad’.
T_F does not speak for anarchists who wholeheartly agree with the meaning of your message.
Power corrups, subjecting an healthy adult to anyone other then themselves is always harm. And even for the immature and ill we should strive to maximise their freedom and expressions.
Good governements can exist in theory but no nation on earth is even close to resembling annything but facism.
Personally i believe when a good governement will emerge it will not be any nation that provides it and instead be a set of logical open source ideas, concept and methods that may voluntarily spread amongst the self organised communities of people in however ways they choose.
Will it be perfect society… absolutely not. Bad people will still exist. But they will be smaller and less powerfull.
Magical thinking helps no one. Power is not a magic force that corrupts all who touch it, this isn’t Lord of the Rings. It is a social relation that allows people to more effectively work in their interests. The issue is that society in much of the world thus far has been structured such that a minority class, be they the landlords and aristocracy of feudalism or the bourgeoisie of capitalism, hold an effective monopoly. They use this monopoly to extract surplus and protect their property. The solution is not to wish away power, but to seize it and democratize it, transforming it from a tool of class exploitation into an instrument of social administration.
By your logic, nuclear power station workers being subject to the safety team is truly harmful. An operating room being subject to a chief surgeon is another great harm.
Or is it possible that hierarchy is a useful social relation that has been reproduced across geography, centuries, and even species for a reason?
In nature, coordinated structures emerge because they solve material problems of survival and resource management. In human society, as the division of labor grows more complex, large scale production physically demands coordination, discipline, and unified direction. A factory, a railway network, or a hospital cannot run on pure consensus without collapsing.
The goal should not be to abolish all authority, which would mean abolishing industry and modern society itself. The goal should be to abolish class authority. End the subjection of people to people as exploiters, and replace it with the rational, democratic administration of things and the technical direction of production.
Your confusing hierarchy and authority, dont worry i also still mix them up sometimes.
Trusting and following a leader is not the same as being subjected to an authority.
If a chief is wrong then the assistants should be free to resist. They only follow as long as they agree with the direction.
About abolishing major parts of modern industry and society. uhm in my wildest dreams maybe. But realistically we are better of evolving things slowly
There is no magic involved in “power corrupts”, its just a way to reference the mental illnesses that emerge in people when leadership stops being contested.
But i know the community i am in, i am not really here to fight tankies, that just results in stale mate. in many ways we overlap and fight the same abstracted evils really as i welcome the resistancd against the usa. My comments are intended for other inspiring anarchists who dont know what tankies are about yet frequently end up confused when sharing opinions that they tought where aligned with the opinions expessed in the content featured on ml. Because really, many memes here are delighfully refreshing for anti-nationalists.
Even anarchists support various proposed sorts of governments.
What you are doing is simply ruining propaganda in support of destroying and subjugating the enemies of your empire under the guise of ‘all states/governments are bad’.