A few 100 memes on Facebook didn’t have any impact on elections. Russia didn’t fund TV ads or campaign for him. The Russia hysteria coming from oligarchs is to give you a Boogeyman so they can be your savior
Do you have a reference for a credible study? Since the youth who watches TikTok isn’t that numerous and doesn’t vote that much, how could that have such an influence?
Also how could Russia buy propaganda on Facebook without US approval? The US is doing regime changes all over the world. Why should they make such a Rooky mistake and hand over the presidency at home?
Russian use of social media to disseminate propaganda content was very broad. Facebook and Twitter were used, but also Reddit, Tumblr, Pinterest, Medium, YouTube, Vine, and Google+ (among other sites). Instagram was by far the most used platform, and one that largely remained out of the public eye until late 2018.
Advertisements bought … are estimated to have reached 10 million users. But many more Facebook users were contacted by accounts created by Russian actors. 470 Facebook accounts are known to have been created by Russians … Of those accounts six generated content that was shared at least 340 million times, … The most strident Internet promoters of Trump were paid Russian propagandists/trolls, …
In continued analysis … researchers found the most prominent methods of misinformation were ostensibly “organic posting, not advertisements”
Facebook originally denied that fake news on their platform had influenced the election and had insisted it was unaware of any Russian-financed advertisements but later admitted that about 126 million Americans may have seen posts published by Russia-based operatives.
There is more, but I think the 600+ sources in the wikipedia article do a better job than I ever will.
The Mueller Report found the IRA spent $100,000 for more than 3,500 Facebook advertisements from June 2015 to May 2017,[63] which included anti-Clinton and pro-Trump advertisements.[55] In comparison, Clinton and Trump campaigns spent $81 million on Facebook ads, but the IRA “likely was able to squeeze more impressions and engagement out of each dollar of spend than Trump and Clinton’s ads”
The value of the Russian influence comes from viral stories.
Of those accounts six generated content that was shared at least 340 million times
Those 340 million shares are impressive, but that’s one exposure while 1000 views for ads cost $10 so Russia gifted $4 million to Trump.
On the other hand, Clinton had $2 billion to spend.
Through 2016, the foundation had raised an estimated $2 billion from U.S. corporations, foreign governments and corporations, political donors, and various other groups and individuals.
A total 30 Facebook pages targeting Black Americans and 10 YouTube channels that posted 571 videos related to police violence against African Americans.
If they exposed 340 million Americans to police violence then that can’t have been good for republicans.
To me it looks like an excuse. Clinton was in office. She must have had access to secret information that warned about the risk.
The Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation of Russian interference in July 2016
Around the same time as Russia’s attempt to hack the 2014 elections, the Obama administration received a report suggesting that the Kremlin was building a disinformation program which could be used to interfere in Western politics.
The United States Department of State planned to use a unit formed with the intention of combating disinformation from the Russian government, but it was disbanded in September 2015 after department heads missed the scope of propaganda before the 2016 U.S. election.
If Clinton knows that there was manipulation and she disbanded the defence and exposed her mails then that looks like a honey pot to me.
I do not understand your point. Russia was intent on sowing discord and chaos, which they did. They spread millions of lies and disinformation, and succeeded in making people distrust the election system. A decade later and you can see the situation we are now in.
The US pushed Jelzin’s election which led to Putin with the intent to avoid a Communist victory which is keeping Russia stuck where it is now since then. What Russia did was at most par for the course. However I think the influence is hugely exagerated. The claim is that Putin managed to compensate a $2 billion budget
Trump had a budget of $500 million.
but
, he received free media attention valued at about $5 billion.
Those $5 billion are the elephant in the room. The election wasn’t won on the internet but by established media companies. Those 340 million shares aren’t worth that much.
Voting machines, registration processes, weekday voting and gerrymandering - that all originated in the US. A Russian blogger who points that out is not to blame for the current mess.
Russia was involved but that involvement is used to distract from who else was involved even more.
They don’t have as much influence as liberals like to believe they do, they just have a political party that is so inept in governing that they have to blame it on someone so they choose Russia. It’s the exact same techniques the government used during the 1950s Red scare, they convince the public that Russians are everywhere
The curtain administration is accumulation of liberals selecting what they called a lesser evil for the last 50 years, which was actually incremental fascism.
This country is so politically divided that no amount of Facebook memes is going to change a Democrat voter to a Republican or vice versa. Democrats have a history of propping up pieces of shit as candidates and then are shocked when people don’t support their pieces of shit based on them having a shitty history and then blame Russia.
And Republicans have a history of blatant lies; your argument is irrelevant, though.
Fully a third of the country is neither Republican or Democrat. THAT’S what decides elections, not how many are ‘red’ vs ‘blue’ (in fact, for many years now, Republicans are the minority, and by your logic would never win anywhere).
Again, your assertion that social media-based disinfo campaigns don’t do anything is just not true. Like at all.
A Republican will tell you that they do not like Mexicans. Democrats will say we’re going to protect them from deportation and that they are safe, then deport them anyway. A Republican will tell you they do not like the LGBTQ community. Democrats will embrace them while calling themselves an ally, then then make them the punchline whenever they are faced was people they don’t agree with.
A Republican will tell you they’re going to lower your taxes, then raise them; that they’re going to reduce government size to save you money, but it’s actually to make corruption easier and cost you more.
We could go on. We have no heroes in government, but fuck’s sake, man, one party are openly fascist.
I know liberals prefer their fascism covert. It allows them to go to brunch and not have to think about the crimes being committed in the country against the working class.
Oh, so McCheetoh has no connections to Russia? And Russia clearly has not directly benefited from his actions?
Don’t get me wrong, AIPAC can burn in the deepest layers of hell; but pretending Russia is harmless is just beyond the pale.
A few 100 memes on Facebook didn’t have any impact on elections. Russia didn’t fund TV ads or campaign for him. The Russia hysteria coming from oligarchs is to give you a Boogeyman so they can be your savior
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Do you have a reference for a credible study? Since the youth who watches TikTok isn’t that numerous and doesn’t vote that much, how could that have such an influence?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections
Also how could Russia buy propaganda on Facebook without US approval? The US is doing regime changes all over the world. Why should they make such a Rooky mistake and hand over the presidency at home?
The wikipedia article has over 600 hundred references, including a section specifically on the disinformation campaign.
There is more, but I think the 600+ sources in the wikipedia article do a better job than I ever will.
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The value of the Russian influence comes from viral stories.
Those 340 million shares are impressive, but that’s one exposure while 1000 views for ads cost $10 so Russia gifted $4 million to Trump.
On the other hand, Clinton had $2 billion to spend.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clinton_Foundation
But which content was shared?
If they exposed 340 million Americans to police violence then that can’t have been good for republicans.
To me it looks like an excuse. Clinton was in office. She must have had access to secret information that warned about the risk.
If Clinton knows that there was manipulation and she disbanded the defence and exposed her mails then that looks like a honey pot to me.
I do not understand your point. Russia was intent on sowing discord and chaos, which they did. They spread millions of lies and disinformation, and succeeded in making people distrust the election system. A decade later and you can see the situation we are now in.
And this is just the publicly known stuff.
The US pushed Jelzin’s election which led to Putin with the intent to avoid a Communist victory which is keeping Russia stuck where it is now since then. What Russia did was at most par for the course. However I think the influence is hugely exagerated. The claim is that Putin managed to compensate a $2 billion budget
Trump had a budget of $500 million.
but
https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/candidate?id=N00023864
Those $5 billion are the elephant in the room. The election wasn’t won on the internet but by established media companies. Those 340 million shares aren’t worth that much.
Voting machines, registration processes, weekday voting and gerrymandering - that all originated in the US. A Russian blogger who points that out is not to blame for the current mess.
Russia was involved but that involvement is used to distract from who else was involved even more.
They don’t have as much influence as liberals like to believe they do, they just have a political party that is so inept in governing that they have to blame it on someone so they choose Russia. It’s the exact same techniques the government used during the 1950s Red scare, they convince the public that Russians are everywhere
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The curtain administration is accumulation of liberals selecting what they called a lesser evil for the last 50 years, which was actually incremental fascism.
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This country is so politically divided that no amount of Facebook memes is going to change a Democrat voter to a Republican or vice versa. Democrats have a history of propping up pieces of shit as candidates and then are shocked when people don’t support their pieces of shit based on them having a shitty history and then blame Russia.
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And Republicans have a history of blatant lies; your argument is irrelevant, though.
Fully a third of the country is neither Republican or Democrat. THAT’S what decides elections, not how many are ‘red’ vs ‘blue’ (in fact, for many years now, Republicans are the minority, and by your logic would never win anywhere).
Again, your assertion that social media-based disinfo campaigns don’t do anything is just not true. Like at all.
A Republican will tell you that they do not like Mexicans. Democrats will say we’re going to protect them from deportation and that they are safe, then deport them anyway. A Republican will tell you they do not like the LGBTQ community. Democrats will embrace them while calling themselves an ally, then then make them the punchline whenever they are faced was people they don’t agree with.
Lol
A Republican will tell you they’re going to lower your taxes, then raise them; that they’re going to reduce government size to save you money, but it’s actually to make corruption easier and cost you more.
We could go on. We have no heroes in government, but fuck’s sake, man, one party are openly fascist.
But whatever. Go play on Truth* Social.
I know liberals prefer their fascism covert. It allows them to go to brunch and not have to think about the crimes being committed in the country against the working class.