Discord defends itself against efforts to stop piracy on its platform by saying no to more invasive data collection. Even though Discord isn’t exactly known for privacy, this is a great move for its users. What are your thoughts?

    • Aatube
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      2019 hours ago

      They do have to retrieve old messages when new users join though. I’m sure the government can force them to lett them in a server and unlock the roles

      • @fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works
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        25 hours ago

        Keep the data but encrypted. Let users send links that contain the pki info to decrypt the messages. Have that pki info generated client side.

        Discord would only need to shuffle data, provide authentication, and provide the web app data down to the client. But every bit of user shared and generated content would be encrypted to them.

        • Aatube
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          35 hours ago

          Like I said, Discord can still be compelled to let feds join the server, thus receiving the PKIs.

      • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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        516 hours ago

        Why?

        Why is channel history needed for new users?

        Back in the IRC days you joined a channel that was just empty, if you wanted the history you had to run an IRC client continously, I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.

        If you want the history automatically, you can’t expect privacy.

        • @GamingChairModel@lemmy.world
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          57 hours ago

          At the same time, expecting privacy in a room where a bunch of strangers hang out is already unreasonable. If everyone already in the channel can log the chats, for example by idling in the channel, then adding E2E on top of that is probably a false sense of security.

        • @rooster_butt@lemm.ee
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          26 hours ago

          I have an issue with something I’m using and there is a discord server I will join it. I then search my issue and its usually been adressed in the past. Without history I would be forced to ask the question that has probably been answered many times in the past.

        • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          27 hours ago

          If you want the history automatically, you can’t expect privacy.

          That’s not true, you can pull the history from other users who happen to be online.

          • Aatube
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            25 hours ago

            The feds can also pull such history when they join the server

            • @sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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              14 hours ago

              Sure, and the users of the channel could decide whether to share that history with new users or not. My point is that if you don’t have messages on the server, the service can’t help here, and it’s up to the users of the channel to set their own policies. If the data is stored on the server, the service could be legally obligated to provide that data.

          • @deathbird@mander.xyz
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            46 hours ago

            Far more than should tbh. Too many little game mods will have a Discord for questions and reporting issues rather than using their GitHub or a forum.

            • @JustARaccoon@lemmy.world
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              56 hours ago

              Oh I agree, it’s very much a “forcing a round peg into a square hole” situation, but I doubt discord will make any changes to push back against it

          • @stoy@lemmy.zip
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            1013 hours ago

            That is a good point, I have never done that, and to me it is just a chat system…

        • @Chadus_Maximus@lemm.ee
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          2616 hours ago

          90% of the reason I even have discord is because people much smarter than me use it to share information. Nobody uses other areas suited for sharing information anymore. It’s either Reddit or discord.

        • @vithigar@lemmy.ca
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          412 hours ago

          I remember running screen irssi on a separate computer and sshing into the server, reconnecting the screen with irssi in it.

          I still do that today.