• @TheFonz@lemmy.world
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    04 months ago

    just to be clear: in order to discuss this one topic, i have to bring up my whole bio and charter first right? Otherwise we cannot engage, correct? The never ending purity testing.

    I align with all left positions: social welfare, gun restrictions, etc. But I shouldn’t have to justify this in order to have a nuanced conversation with someone. This is the crux of the problem. Not even people on the left can disagree about something as basic as the facts of a case that was broadcasted on national television.

    • knightly the Sneptaur
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      -14 months ago

      just to be clear: in order to discuss this one topic, i have to bring up my whole bio and charter first right? Otherwise we cannot engage, correct? The never ending purity testing.

      I would have preferred if you didn’t try to make the discussion about you and stuck to the points you wanted to make, but you did and now you’re mad about it. Seems like a “you” problem.

      I argue with liberals about gun rights all the time and almost never bother to state my political alignment, yet they never accuse me of being right-wing because my preference for policies like “arm the homeless” and “disarm the police” can’t be confused for right-wing ideology.

      I align with all left positions: social welfare, gun restrictions, etc. But I shouldn’t have to justify this in order to have a nuanced conversation with someone. This is the crux of the problem. Not even people on the left can disagree about something as basic as the facts of a case that was broadcasted on national television.

      You don’t have to justify yourself, you just feel like you do to because you aren’t what you claim to be. Actual leftists argue among themselves about policy all the time, about such niche positions that it might as well take a degree in political theory to tell a Posadist from an Anarcho-Transhumanist. From what you’ve shared so far, you seem to be a neoliberal, which is a right-wing ideology aligned with the Democrats that only seems “left of center” when the overton window is limited to Democrats and Republicans.

      To put it another way, if you didn’t want to defend your “left” credentials then you shouldn’t have claimed them.

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        04 months ago

        I’ve brought questions in the past without the credentials thing and the only thing that came of it was how conservative / boot-lucking fascist I am. No matter how I angle myself here I can’t ask any questions about the events of that day.

        There is no way out of the label tantrum game if you’re not lockstep with the full narrative of what happened that day. I tried a different tactic today and obviously it led to the same result. Only this time: poser leftie pretending to be