• John Richard
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    4 months ago

    Biden was going to lose to Trump and was dragging other Democrats down with him in the polls. What more did you need?

      • @njm1314@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        Not for nothing but four months should be plenty to do an election in. 24 hour news media has convinced you that it’s got to be a 2-year endeavor. In all honesty 2 months should be plenty. Four is fine. Our entire country would be much better off if election seasons were shorter.

          • @tamal3@lemmy.world
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            Smaller country, less money involved… but here’s hoping.

            Edit: I’m not sure why I’m being downvoted. Comparing the speed of the British election cycle to that of the US is mismatched. Yes, US elections are ridiculous and bloated, but that’s still the reality of them. Regardless, we’ll have to do things faster based on circumstances.

            • @Triasha@lemmy.world
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              34 months ago

              France put together a winning left coalition in 2 weeks.

              How does the US being a bigger, wealthier, country mean we are weaker? I’m so tired of these arguments about what we can’t do. If Biden dropped out 2 weeks before November it would be a disaster. As it is, he is listening to the legitimate concerns of the people.

            • @NateNate60@lemmy.world
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              -34 months ago

              Well, the US is literally the second-most populous electoral democracy and the third-most populous country in the world, so I say we’ll need some time.

              • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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                14 months ago

                The largest democracy takes around two months of campaigning and about six weeks for voting.

                Population scales proportionately for both the number of voters and for number of people working on a campaign and number of people working at polling stations on election day.

                And let’s be honest, it’s only a small number of states that Presidential campaigns actually focus on because of that whole Electoral College thing.

                It’s just the US is accustomed to a long election cycle, that’s all. It’s not a necessity. It may not actually be a good thing as it allows time for bad actors to construct false narratives. Seems to just favour personality over policy.

        • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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          04 months ago

          How does AOC know what the elites want? Does she spend a lot of time having conversations with the elites about which direction they want politics to go?

          • Rentlar
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            24 months ago

            She says she was in those conversations with high profile Democrats who have expressed more concerns about their donors rather than about their constituents.

      • @CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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        104 months ago

        It’s going to be vote blue no matter who

        So the same thing that’s been said to get people to vote for Biden in the first place?

        If the Biden campaign was mostly running on “Not Trump,” anyone they replace him with will also not be Trump.

        • @SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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          A lot of people just felt like it was time to trade in their Not Trump for a newer model Not Trump. Sure there were other Not Trumps we could’ve gone with a year ago, but those Not Trumps are no longer on the market. So we’re going with the best available Not Trump right now.

          This Not Trump isn’t in mint condition (but none of them are), but it has much better mileage and it has more acceleration and a better top speed.

          As is the case with all Not Trumps this one is a better choice than Trump. Obviously.

      • John Richard
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        34 months ago

        Yeah, of course he’s going to endorse her. Still doesn’t mean that delegates don’t decide after an open convention. If she can show the delegates she has what it takes then she earns it.

      • @dank@lemmy.today
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        34 months ago

        Who cares if it’s Kamala? She’s not senile, she’s not Genocide Joe, and she’s not an unhinged fascist. She’s a shoe-in.

      • @daq
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        Newsom is the only option with any chance of winning, but democrats aren’t even trying to win this election.

        • Bibliotectress
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          274 months ago

          They’re clearly trying to win if they got so scared about polls they strong-armed Biden into resigning. The panic has pretty clearly set in. We’ll see if this works or not.

        • @ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
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          94 months ago

          I abhor Gavin Newsome and would only vote for him to replace Trump. There are almost zero things Gavin Newsome can do that any other candidate can do better. He’s a slimy, adulterous predator who is more concerned with being remembered than doing something memorable.

        • @Triasha@lemmy.world
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          I don’t think you realize how much of a stink “California Governor” has in middle America.

          It’s bullshit. We should all be so lucky to live in a place like California, but fox News Propaganda has been working for decades convincing disengaged voters that Cali is a hellscape.

          I think Newsom would make a fantastic President, but I am not convinced he has the best chance to win.

        • @dank@lemmy.today
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          14 months ago

          Just about anyone can beat Trump. Now that we don’t have a senile old man holding us back, we’ll be fine.

        • Omega
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          -224 months ago

          Harris or Manchin.

          Harris actually sounds pretty good when she’s talking politics. Her tough on crime past can give her a boost with moderates and centrists as well. She just has the weirdest mannerisms when trying to relate to people.

          Manchin has obvious appeal to centrists and moderates. His biggest issue is his opposition to climate change action. But other than that he’d be considered liberal by '90s standards.

          Newsom needs to go through the primary process to see if he can appeal to swing state voters. Because I’m not convinced he can win those margin votes that he needs.

            • Omega
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              -114 months ago

              Manchin is a lot closer to a Democrat than a Republican. A LOT closer.

          • @sudo@programming.dev
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            144 months ago

            Manchin is running as an independent Senator in 2024. Giving him the nom would be the biggest “fuck you” to their voters.

            Harris is the only logical choice. She’s not the best candidate but she can form coherent sentences and isnt surprising voters any more than Biden dropping.