A neat little array. Worth an actual read or at least a skim, it’s not just PHON voters.

It also helps to see this kind of thing so we can notice lines of parallel and work on top of them to bring people away from ON. Many have [I believe sincerely] said “I don’t agree with many of her policies”, so we should build on that and show parties which have the same focus on real working issues but without the nationalist garbage.

Polls for PHON are above 25% nationally, so, sadly, this is below average.

This.

Share it where needed: https://thewhiterosesociety.writeas.com/9-principles-for-journalists-reporting-on-neo-nazis

See also: https://aussie.zone/post/32699745

“No first home! No second home either!”

How can you possibly ban a “group” under any name they “reform” under?

What’s the issue? The NSN officially disbanded, yet almost all the same members created a ‘new’ organisation (i.e. they reformed), continue to run events through their front group (March for Australia) and continue to show up to various events together as a group. It is clearly a continuation of the same violent organisation in an attempt to circumvent the ban, something Sewer even talked about at the time of their disbandment, referencing what National Action members in the UK did, many getting arrested afterwards for trying the same thing.

Is this a preemptive ban on any groups that could be anti Israel - before they exist?

Very clearly no. Now, if you’re concerned that these anti-hate laws could be abused to censor groups critical of the Zionist Regime, then that’s a valid concern, especially if Libs or ON take government in the future. But no, neo-Nazis are a distinct ideological phenomenon, even distinct from Nazism these days.

The title is incomplete, so for those who didn’t read to the near-end: (and as mentioned more in-depth in the other post)

The Coalition’s home affairs spokesperson, Jonathon Duniam, welcomed the move on Friday, and said the public did not want to see individuals avoid justice “simply by tearing down a banner and re-emerging under a different name”.

The legislation will allow the government to use regulation to capture a group that has phoenixed, rather than having to list it separately. Burke said the principle of using the regulation would be based on “whether or not they’re judged to be a continuation of the organisation”.

The Naarm AFA Telegram made a post on the topic, concerning the related March for Australia group: https://t.me/AFAAlertsNaarm/52

I don’t use All as much as I do Local so I’m ambivalent. That said, I would consider defederating to make a point - we do not support instances which are hypocritical and whose entire userbase is based in bigotry.

ex card carrying marxist here

I’m extremely interested to hear which card you carried, as this Marxist group sounds very strange and, well, not Marxist.

The sentences you said after clearly contradict Marx’s own theory and actions, as well as those of every Marxist group I’ve talked to in this country. The only one (1) I’ve know to be anti-union was the SEP, who are tiny and inconsequential and demand workers create their own union.

and I see the excuse that protesting is still useful because it gives you a means to organize for further action

That’s not “an excuse”. Look at basically all revolutions which weren’t just military coups and you can find meaningful protests. They’re a major entry point to those “better ways” you mention.

A protest isn’t inherently effective, going there and simply standing around listening to speeches is a waste of your time, but it is still an important tool in social change.

They are free to believe what ever idiocy they choose.

You say this as if their beliefs are inconsequential, merely ideas in an abstract. This group is a predatory cult. It was recently publicly revealed that one of their members already killed themselves due to internal oppression. They regularly threaten people (including politicians) with violence and commit violence, and members have been charged and arrested for doing so. They’re still doing it and growing in size. The law has shown itself ineffective at stopping them.

But ultimately, at the end of the day, this cult is organising with the explicit intent of exterminating people, including me. So, when do you believe I, or we, should stop them?

Some of the antifascists in Australia have had success with YARDing (Yelling At Racist Dogs): “How to deal with alt-right pests at rallies”.

Demonstrating to these idiots that they’re outsiders to the communities they’re targeting is, you picked the right word, demoralising. One of the main neo-Nazi organisers here (Joel Davis) made a speech to the UK Patriotic Alternative, quote “You guys might get demoralised sometimes when you do a demonstration and there’s fifty of you and there’s two hundred antifa- I’m not saying that’s happened, but I don’t- I don’t know all the details, but I’ve been in experiences like that where I’ve gone to protests […] and there’s ten of us and, like, two hundred communists. And it feels like shit. i-it’s horrible. It’s horrifying.”

Relinking this recent exposé about the main neo-Nazi group involved in this rally: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo2xBrImsg4

and the White Rose Society guide to media reporting on these scum: https://thewhiterosesociety.writeas.com/9-principles-for-journalists-reporting-on-neo-nazis

Absolutely. It should, and unfortunately it won’t be until plenty of us get together and force it to.

I only learned about it afterwards, but I couldn’t have made it there anyway. Glad they also got the one perfect day of the lot!

It’s been some time since I tried them (a shared kitched had four different -mite spreads), but I remember Marmite being sweeter and softer/less thick, almost syrupy, and a quick search confirms that’s what others have said.

“Marmite is saltier, and the spread has a smoother texture. Vegemite, on the other hand, is more bitter with a more robust umami flavor.” - (chefsresource.com)

For a more serious reply, and I haven’t tried this – on eggs in place of salt

Put a spoon in the jar and periodically lick it. 9 out of 10 nutritionists disapprove!

Non-lethal meth components, your Honour.

Nazis are no stranger to workarounds and skirting censorship. When the swastika gets banned, they just use the Sonnenrad, Wolfsangel, pseudo-runes, etc. and police end up abusing the laws to arrest people criticising fascism. Homework for the reader: find out how many times a party calling themselves a Centre Party was actually a fascist party. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centre_Party_(New_South_Wales). Liberalist legal bans just turn fascism into cryptofascism, it takes community effort to root it out properly.