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It’s interesting how AI is the thing that caused so many people to suddenly go “wait, I actually love it when the government tells me what I’m allowed to do with my computer.”

Modern LLMs are trained on highly curated and processed data, often synthetic data based off of original posts and not the posts themselves. And the trainers are well aware that there are people trying to “poison” the data in various ways. At this point it’s mainly an annoyance to other humans when people try.

Again, they are not universally enforceable. There are plenty of jurisdictions where they are not.

Which company us “the AI company?”

One wonders if a similar meeting was once held regarding the Warsaw Ghetto.

The enforceability of EULAs varies with jurisdiction and with the actual contents of the EULA. It’s by no means a universally accepted thing.

It’s funny how suddenly large chunks of the Internet are cheering on EULAs and copyright enforcement by giant megacorporations because they’ve become convinced that AI is Satan.

If it’s paywalled how did they access it?

The problem with those things is that the viewer doesn’t need that license in order to analyze them. They can just refuse the license. Licenses don’t automatically apply, you have to accept them. And since they’re contracts they need to offer consideration, not just place restrictions.

An AI model is not a derivative work, it doesn’t include any identifiable pieces of the training data.

So charge them an appropriate price for the scarce resource they’re using.

I think WWI and WWII could be considered “World War Part 1” and " World War Part 2."

A lot of the griping about AI training involves data that’s been freely published. Stable Diffusion, for example, trained on public images available on the internet for anyone to view, but led to all manner of ill-informed public outrage. LLMs train on public forums and news sites. But people have this notion that copyright gives them some kind of absolute control over the stuff they “own” and they suddenly see a way to demand a pound of flesh for what they previously posted in public. It’s just not so.

I have the right to analyze what I see. I strongly oppose any move to restrict that right.

Streaming involves distributing copies so I don’t see why it would be. The law has been well tested in this area.

“Exploiting copyrighted content” is an incredibly vague concept that is not illegal. Copyright is about distributing copies of copyrighted content.

If I am given a copyrighted book, there are plenty of ways that I can exploit that book that are not against copyright. I could make paper airplanes out of its pages. I could burn it for heat. I could even read it and learn from its contents. The one thing I can’t do is distribute copies of it.

The act of copying the data without paying for it (assuming it’s something you need to pay for to get a copy of) is piracy, yes. But the training of an AI is not piracy because no copying takes place.

A lot of people have a very vague, nebulous concept of what copyright is all about. It isn’t a generalized “you should be able to get money whenever anyone does anything with something you thought of” law. It’s all about making and distributing copies of the data.

No, because training an AI is not “pirating.”

Breaking: Two people whose fortunes depend on the existing world order urge lawmakers to ban something new that could disrupt that order.

Some years back I was in a D&D campaign where doppelgangers became a major ongoing concern. It turned out that in that case doppelgangers built up their image of the person they wanted to mimic through careful observation, but thanks to the general prudishness of society doppelgangers rarely ever caught glimpses of peoples’ genitals. So we ultimately came up with the “crotch check” system. Doppelgangers usually couldn’t form plausible genitalia.

There have been stupider border disputes between Canada and the US.

Frankly, I think symbolism is useful here. If the Americans are going to play stupid games then I’m fine with a little pageantry to draw attention to those stupid games.

I remember running into this sort of thing back on Reddit once, it was baffling. I mentioned in a thread about something unrelated that my ancestors on my father’s side fled to Canada to avoid being killed by Stalin, and one weirdo got quite vigorous about arguing that they must have been Nazi sympathizers then. Yeah, Mennonite farmers from Ukraine were Nazi sympathizers a decade before the Nazis even came to power. Makes sense.