Anyone else read this? The arrogance is palpable.

  • @Dandroid@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    892 years ago

    I can’t believe this POS got away with lying about the developer of Apollo threatening to blackmail them. Why aren’t these interviewers asking about that?

    • flybynightpotato
      link
      fedilink
      432 years ago

      Christian Selig is too decent and mature for his own good. In his place, I’d probably make the [immature, bad] decision to go scorched earth.

      • bigyamms
        link
        fedilink
        82 years ago

        I imagine there’s legal repercussions involved too, accusing publicly someone of blackmail

      • Trebach
        link
        fedilink
        42 years ago

        I hope he’s got his mouth shut under advice of a lawyer while they prepare a defamation lawsuit.

  • @koraro@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    752 years ago

    When he says the API was never meant for viewing apps he’s completely ignoring that for the longest time reddit didn’t even have an official app.

    • Haan
      link
      fedilink
      442 years ago

      And had to buy a 3rd party app themselves

    • moldyringwald
      link
      fedilink
      362 years ago

      Also, their official app is LITERALLY based on a third party app! When everything was transitioning to new reddit they tried to build an app and it was fucking terrible so they bought out the most successful third party reddit app for iOS; Alien Blue. Even if you go into the theme settings on the android app the default theme is still called Alien Blue.

      • Bloonface
        link
        fedilink
        32 years ago

        It’s amazing seeing a company try to give itself Galapagos syndrome.

  • @SirGolan
    link
    592 years ago

    It’s just so tone deaf. And he’s totally lying about users not supporting the blackout. All the subreddits I was on where the mods asked people what they wanted to do, most of the comments were in favor of keeping them dark indefinitely. The rest were agreeing to the blackout in general. I don’t remember seeing a single person objecting.

    • flybynightpotato
      link
      fedilink
      362 years ago

      He’s probably relying on the fact that the numbers are now skewed in favor of people against the blackout because those of us who were pro are extricating ourselves from the site and not posting/commenting/interacting with content as much, if at all.

      • @Confuzzeled@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        92 years ago

        That’s exactly what’s happening, the people who are disgruntled enough have either left or maybe like me just commenting occasionally to promote lemmy. This leaves all the people who don’t care. I’m hoping it’s going to be a slow bleed and reddit will eventually wither.

        • @dannoffs
          link
          32 years ago

          Yeah, the thread on my city’s subreddit about reopening is full of the absolute dumbest regulars and users who I’d never seen comment before complaining about the blackout being pointless.

      • lp0101
        link
        fedilink
        42 years ago

        Pretty much - I took a look at Reddit today and the attitude regarding that blackout has done a complete 180. I don’t know if Reddit managed to push the narrative or what, but all I’ve seen is users complaining about “activists mods” and how they were never in favour of the blackout to begin with

    • borkcorkedforks
      link
      fedilink
      112 years ago

      Casual users probably just want shit to work and didn’t know about the black out until it was happening. They won’t notice why they should care until their app of choice goes offline or communities start falling apart due to modding issues. The issues coming from mods being pushed out, leaving, or having fewer tools.

    • jclinares
      link
      fedilink
      10
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      I don’t remember seeing a single person objecting.

      Depends on where you look, I suppose.

      We did a poll in r/snowboarding (a subreddit that it’s in its off-season, and currently just frequented by our most “loyal” users) about whether to continue the blackout, and after two days of voting, it was literally a 50-50 split, and the majority of the comments were against the blackout. On the week before the blackout, the vast majority of support was there for the 48 hour blackout. If we’d done that same poll in February, I have a feeling that the majority would have voted to not continue the blackout. In that sense, I don’t think spaz is too far off the mark.

      What the lying piece of corporate crap is ignoring is the fact that alternatives have grown considerably, traffic has gone down, and entire mod teams are quitting in protest. Reddit is going to be around for many many years, but this is the first time that I see a true push to create something different, not just for a few undesirables (i.e. Voat), but for the larger community in general.

    • Frog-Brawler
      link
      fedilink
      5
      edit-2
      2 years ago

      There was a subreddit that I used to frequent that was all about returning to normalcy, and pretty much thought the blackout was an inconvenience. I let them know I wanted nothing to do with them, I unsubbed and haven’t logged into Reddit since that day actually. I was disgusted.

    • Zana
      link
      fedilink
      32 years ago

      A lot of them have polls that are probably still up on the blacked out subs.

  • Heresy_generator
    link
    fedilink
    18
    edit-2
    2 years ago

    I love the platitudes about democracy and democratic values from Reddit’s dictator. He wants to pretend he just wants to let the users to decide, I’ll believe that when he puts his own job up for a vote among Reddit’s users.

      • deaconblue
        link
        fedilink
        32 years ago

        Seems to me that rich people, especially obnoxious rich people, don’t get to see very many people behaving as they naturally would. If you are not impressed by their money then you probably ignore and avoid. If you are then you are fake nice. I doubt that they get a very realistic take on what people in general really think.

    • @ironhydroxide@partizle.com
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      Just like the muskrat. If he does, you can bet he will either game the vote, or not actually step down when the vote goes against him.

  • Haan
    link
    fedilink
    132 years ago

    Steve isn’t backing down, but cowardly mods certainly are!

    • BlackCoffee
      link
      fedilink
      42 years ago

      Indeed.

      I guess people really did prefer their little space where they hold any power.

  • GreenPlasticSushiGrass
    link
    fedilink
    122 years ago

    Here are my takeaways. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    1. Third party apps monetized Reddit better than Reddit did by actually making a profit, and spez seems pretty butthurt about it and wants it to stop.
    2. Third party apps have better accessibility options, but jeez, guys, they’re working on it and you’ll have better accessibility!
    3. Third party apps offer a better experience for the mods and users that use them, but jeez, c’mon! They’re working on that, too! Besides, look at all of these casual users who don’t care about that stuff!
    • Futs
      link
      fedilink
      22 years ago

      It’s hard to make a feature rich app with good accessibility features and a proper user experience when those aren’t your priorities, but instead drown it in adds and focus on how to make money from it.

    • @GrandMoffFartin@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      12 years ago

      This is the richest part of all of it. They’re taking tools away from people with no time frame for replacements. I’ve been using Reddit for 16 years and the only things I’ve ever seen them ship are new Reddit, rewards, premium, and avatars. The fact that it’s 2023 and they have accessibility issues is appalling. If they can’t handle screen readers then mod tools ain’t coming.

  • noyesster
    link
    fedilink
    112 years ago

    I have had a Reddit account almost since the beginning. After seeing the way the CEO’s threats have started working and subreddits opening back up, I have decided to delete my Reddit account. Fuck them. My new home is here now.

  • @Backstab100@lemmy.fmhy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    92 years ago

    Why do these top executives always sound like they don’t care about their product? In this case, reddit, like they are running it into the ground! Maybe its just a facade?

    • cowvin
      link
      fedilink
      32 years ago

      Executives aren’t there to care about the product. They are there to lead the company to make a profit. That’s what he’s prioritizing. I don’t really hold it against him personally myself. I’m just going to hang out here instead.

      • ArugulaZ
        link
        fedilink
        12 years ago

        “The power of Competitron lies in the boardroom, not the product, Nygma!”

  • AnonymousLlama
    link
    fedilink
    92 years ago

    His tone deaf approach has already led to heaps of people fleeing / reassessing their options. Wouldn’t of known about these sites if it weren’t for this prick

  • Zimroxo
    link
    fedilink
    62 years ago

    That entire interview is so full of shit.
    “We’re perfectly willing to work with the folks who want to work with us, including figuring out what that transition period will look like. But I think a deadline forces people, us included, to negotiate that.”
    Tell that to all the app devs that reached out to reddit only to be ignored and attempts to negotiate shot down.

  • @impulse@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    52 years ago

    Yup, this interview was one of the main reasons why I finally deleted my account(s).

    I also made sure to use Power Delete to overwrite every post and comment with a tutorial for Lemmy and the Power Delete Suite. Oh, and a final fuck u/spez for good measure.

  • phill
    link
    fedilink
    52 years ago

    The way spez characterizes accessibility apps as exempt because they carry the cost of adding value to the Reddit experience while implying Apollo doesn’t do the same is disappointing. It’s obvious spez has it out for Apollo and RIF on a personal level, especially considering the transcripts Christian Selig shared.

    The fact of the matter is, Apollo enhances the Reddit experience tremendously, and the official app and new UI don’t even get close to feature parity. And Christian has had to do the labor to make that happen.

    The only thing I can assume now, because of the suddenness of it all and because of recent layoffs, is that Reddit is financially bleeding and this is a way to try to quickly appease investors.

  • smokinjoe
    link
    fedilink
    52 years ago

    Dude is such an abrasive shithead.

    On the bright side, only reinforces my decision to never go back.

  • ArugulaZ
    link
    fedilink
    42 years ago

    This guy can lick my hole. Look, I left Twitter after fourteen years of dedicated use, because of that clogstomping moron, Elon Musk. If Lead Paint Huffer-Man wants to be a greedy dick, I can leave Reddit, too. I was there for four years, but I’m more than willing to find a new place to hang out. Don’t test me, man! I shot my Neopet just to watch it die!