• ForestOrca
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    I’m not really sure why Russian popular opinion is relevant in this case.

    Also, “Surveying public opinion in Russia is complicated, with the Kremlin’s war propaganda and fierce repression of anti-war sentiment obscuring the real picture.”

    • Hyggyldy
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      3011 months ago

      Yeah, I feel like any kind of poll that comes out of Russia right now is kinda meaningless.

    • @gigachad@feddit.de
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      11 months ago

      On top of that, what do you think russians will answer when the “moscow-based levada center” asks them if they would not support Putin if X happens…

    • Tar_Alcaran
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      911 months ago

      Yeah no shit is it “complicated”. The question is mostly if you want to support the war in a vague and indirect sense, or if you prefer supporting the war directly from a penal battalion.

          • @SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT@feddit.de
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            1311 months ago

            That doesn’t really affect people though.

            30% or 50% inflation would. Rationing would. Power outages would. Having to go to air raid shelters every night would.

            None of that is happening. The losses are downplayed, hidden, and the people sent to war are usually from regions or population groups with little influence. No wonder the population supports the war.

            The government also isn’t losing anything important: they don’t care about the people, the weapon systems being lost are outdated scrap, and neither the luxuries of the elites nor the manufacturing and infrastructure inside Russia are being hit. Why would they stop?

            • @Ummdustry@sh.itjust.works
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              511 months ago

              It does effect some people (I.e. People with variable rate mortgages)

              But yeah, overall sanctions are completely insufficient. Partly because they are incomplete, partly because Russia is a massive country able to supply almost all of her own necessities.

            • @vivadanang@lemm.ee
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              111 months ago

              China. Eventually the russian losses will present too tempting a target to China, which is already seeking deeper ties with the -stan countries. Also, China still wants Vladivostok back.

      • T_Lee
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        @abbadon420 @SHITPOSTING_ACCOUNT yeah but thats the fault of the evil West. They are bullying the poor Rodina for trying to save the world. Fortunatley they can continue pumping oil and gas to continue their world saving holy war of love and mercy.

    • @Quittenbrot@feddit.de
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      411 months ago

      Feeling strong and important. Something that is apparently especially important when you are neither.

    • magnetosphere
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      I’m against it, too. I’m definitely not happy about it, but I think the only thing worse than the war continuing would be to give up and reward Putin for his war crimes. He must not be allowed to keep any Ukrainian territory, including Crimea.

      If there was a solution that didn’t involve further bloodshed, then great, but that doesn’t seem possible right now.