Sharing this primarily for the insight it offers into how career national security officials and policy insiders think through these issues.

In this episode, former Biden administration national security officials Jake Sullivan and Jon Finer interview China specialists Jessica Chen Weiss and Julian Gewirtz regarding the Trump–Xi summit, Taiwan deterrence, and bilateral AI safety risks.

Setting aside whether one agrees with their specific policy conclusions or the institutional assumptions of the Washington professionals, it serves as a valuable primary-source look into how senior figures analyze strategic competition, structural trade-offs, and where DC consensus on China is currently holding or fracturing. Worth a listen as an informative window into the mechanics of high-level foreign policy discourse.