• tidderuuf@lemmy.world
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      Let me tell you a tale of old man Sanders and how a certain party rigs those primaries to fuck him over.

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        Hillary got more votes than Bernie did. I like Bernie too, but he just wasn’t popular enough. Specifically with Black voters in the South, which is the base of the Democratic Party.

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          I’m old enough to remember those primaries. Every news channel was talking 24/7 how Hilary has the primaries in the bag because all the superdelegates already pledged to vote for her. For months Bernie was getting more votes in every election but the media was saying that Hilary is winning. So yes, Hilary was more popular. She was more popular because party leadership supported her from day 1 and media kept telling everyone she’s more popular.

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          The race was decided long before primaries were over. At that point people likely didn’t even come out to vote for Bernie

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            Speaking of people not voting for Bernie - he’s very popular with independents, who would have been unable to vote for him in a closed primary if they weren’t registered as Democrats.

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          … really? You’re really not sure? Sure, he best Trump…in 2020. In 2024 he was doing so badly that he had to be replaced before the election even began. You don’t remember this?

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      Okay, Trump it is then. I seriously don’t think there is another popular choice and US democracy is like WWE showdown.

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    Last time she tried running in a primary, she was the first(?) to drop out, due a total lack of support.

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      I will grant that it’s possible that 4 years as VP and a Presidential campaign, she might be a better candidate than back then. But I’d like to see her prove it in a Primary.

      But, that Primary may very well end up being engineered for Gavin to win, like all the rest of the Democratic Primaries have been engineered for the Next One Up recently.

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        Is it bad that I’m hoping some rightwing nut job puts a bullet into newsom, or he otherwise dies. Frankly I just don’t want him around and death is the only way to ensure that.

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    Wonder if the other potential neoliberal candidates will copy her strategy and come out and support a progressive candidate.

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    I don’t know anything about how qualified she is, but how she talks to people or tells a story is worse than RFK Jr’s voice on helium. No thanks!

    It’s like she’s telling a story to kindergarteners with an imaginary picture book, sounding like she’s trying to make it sound special.

    FYI, I did not vote for Trump, either.

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        Yeah well, the way she talks makes her sounds less competent. it’s just so annoying the way she sounds.

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          yeah I’m with you on that one. She is unable to frame good answers to questions.

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            You didn’t even vote, so you’ve little to say on the subject.

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              I think you’re just sore that by voting you explicitely supported a genocide. And I did vote-- I filled out a ballot and turned it in. I just didnt pick one of the choices you personally labeled as “voting”. Like it or not, voters can choose to vote third party or just leave the entry blank-- or they can even stay home on the couch. Until you zionism-bribed centrists realize that aspect of how voting even works, you’ll continue to not understand how to win elections.

              You lot are so hopeless. Centrists are a cancer on the democratic party, and as dangerous to our shared future as republicans are.. By standing in a mythical center you stand nowhere and for nothing.

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                “yOu sUpPorT tEH GiNnY CiDe!”

                For the record, I don’t recall telling you where I stand at all. But since you clearly make assumptions based on zero information, I can see your not someone to ever take seriously.

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      I’m slowly starting to understand how US got Trump. You’re disregarding amongst the most popular opposition because… her voice sounds weird to you? Yeah, Trump is here to stay

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        Dude, I didn’t vote for Trump lmao. I just can’t fucking stand how horrible she sounds when she talks and how she talks. She doesn’t seem competent or qualified, let alone able to talk to regular folks or carry a debate with another politician.

        If Dems are going to take any actual action (they fucking won’t) then it needs to be someone with enough sense, ability, confidence, and critical thinking skills to fight to win!

        If you haven’t picked up on it so far, the billionaires own both parties. They keep the poors divided and preoccupied thinking each other has a chance while they fuck us all the same! The way the Democratic party keeps fumbling each attempt is obvious they also don’t care, because they’re funded by the rich.

        The only real thing occurring is the back and forth with policies feeling like progression happens, only to back slide a few years later. 800 billionaires in the US. The top 1%own 90%of the stocks, so when the “economy its good” it’s only good for them. We have 401K’s to ensure THEIR money-and therefore, power- keeps growing.

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          I just can’t fucking stand how horrible she sounds when she talks and how she talks

          When you say stuff like this, you gotta think relatively about what other popular options are there. Popularity is VERY important, and Kamala has it.

          She doesn’t seem competent or qualified, let alone able to talk to regular folks or carry a debate with another politician.

          Again, relatively. Would she be an upgrade from current regime? No? Then vote Trump, because you know elections are mostly between 2 most popular people.

          critical thinking skills to fight to win!

          That’s not how US works. If you as a candidate show intelligence, majority will think you are stupid.