• agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    At what point during the Biden administration was that facility closed, or converted to something less awful?

    Trump has a policy of separating families. Biden did not.

    It’s not slowing the bleeding, it’s changing the subject so you don’t have to hear about the bleeding.

    Only in your head.

    Slowing the bleeding is getting enough third party people into office to jam up the gears of the orphan crushing machine, or dropping turnout on election day to a single digit percentage and robbing the ruling class of its legitimacy.

    And how many years have you been trying that with no results? Neither of those things is going to happen anytime soon. Third party votes are in the single digits, and 150M+ people vote every election. And “Legitimacy” only exists in your head. You know what happens if voting numbers drop to single digits? The candidate with the most votes still wins. If only one person in the whole country votes, their candidate wins. Your strategy is not effective. Your goal is noble, but your method is counterproductive.

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      2 days ago

      Trump has a policy of separating families. Biden did not.

      You’re really in to changing the subject, huh?

      I suppose having to admit that even in 2023 those cages still held kids (and in fact still did when Biden turned the keys back over to Trump) would be pretty embarrassing if you’re calling for voting for Dems on the basis of harm reduction.

      And how many years have you been trying that with no results?

      What do you mean no results? The Dems lose more voters every cycle. What results are you getting by reassuring them every two years that your vote is safe and they don’t need to concern themselves with how you might react to their latest foray into Neoliberal Austerity or throwing minorities under the bus?

      Your goal is noble, but your method is counterproductive.

      And your goal isn’t even noble, so maybe reconsider your incredibly counterproductive service to the ruling class and their puppets.

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        1 day ago

        Once again wrong on all counts. Biden got the highest vote count in history.

        I’m not wasting any more time with your foolishness. You sound like a high schooler, come back when you’re ready to join us in reality.

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          1 day ago

          Biden got the highest vote count in history.

          Yep. Now do a 40 year trend line of their share of eligible voters, and don’t just focus on the outlier because it’s recent.

          come back when you’re ready to join us in reality.

          I’m not the one who thinks voting for Democrats is harm reduction.