It uses like 70mb at once, any tips on how to fix this?

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    What do you mean by “at once?” 70 mb per hour? Per day?

    Do you have any trackers on your keys or in bags? Do you have other Android devices that are on the Find Device network? How about your neighbors? Find My Device systems are based on aggregation, so you’re also helping to track everyone else’s devices as well. If you turn this feature off, you won’t be able to find your devices either.

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      4 months ago

      70mb once a day, often if I leave the house and turn data on it will use that much within a couple minutes so I usually leave my data off. If i look at WLAN data usage it also shows 70mb per day on most days

      I dont have any trackers or other devices

      Find My Device systems are based on aggregation, so you’re also helping to track everyone else’s devices as well

      I assume google and xiaomis networks are separate right? I dont know if theres that many xiaomi devices around. Also it would probably be nonstop rather than 70mb one time per day

      Thanks for the reply!

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      4 months ago

      What do you use for dns blocks on android?

      or you want it to work, and think it’s a bug?

      Ideally yes, i dont understand why theyd need so much data but i cant find anything online

      • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        4 months ago

        https://docs.quad9.net/Setup_Guides/Android/Android_9%2B_(Encrypted)/

        now, you have to find some boutique resolver blocking xiaomi, and dunno if it pings it directly by ip (or non dns queries) *(then dns won’t help), but that’s something i would try first (if it works via dns, your find phone thingy will just ping into aether without response, but find feature also wouldn’t work). (i would watch by router logs, if i were that interested (is it one file or myriad of exchanges etc), but you have to know the time of the dump to make sense of thousands of requests in your home network and be proficient to be worth your time)

        tbh, sounds like for some reason it just dumps accumulated data each time, so maybe update or some other reset shit (toggling settings back and forth and wait for a day) will help

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          4 months ago

          What does boutique resolver mean? I just have to find the right domain names to block right?

          I’ll have a try, thanks so much for the help!

          • plinky [he/him]@hexbear.net
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            4 months ago

            well, at home you can add blocklists to your own dns if desired, where telemetry often included by block list maintainer, but on cellular you are using someone else’s list.

            maybe you can try netguard (it logs as well I believe?), ideally to throttle speed of the app to simulate 2g for exactly find my devices application, but i dont think it can do this, so it’s still on or off which you can just achieve in settings.

  • trompete [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    I ran my Xiaomi phone through some Android debloater a while ago, I think this one. I just checked now if I have this “Find Device” feature, and apparently it is disabled and I cannot enable it either (seems to be under Settings > Security Status > Find Device, though my phone is not set to English so maybe the translation is slightly off). Which makes me think the debloater either uninstalled or at least disabled this. It also makes me think you may just be able to disable it via this setting, which I recommend trying first.

    This debloater thing works via adb (Android Debug Bridge), which can be used to uninstall pre-installed apps that cannot be uninstalled via the GUI and without needing root. So in theory you could use adb itself instead of the debloater. However, a quick google tells me uninstalling Xiaomi’s Find Device has caused a boot loop for at least some people, so use at your own risk. Here’s a forum thread on how to uninstall stuff via adb.

  • microfiche [he/him]@hexbear.net
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    4 months ago

    Can you freeze the app, and just unfreeze the app when you need to use it or is that something you need root for on an Android device? Is it using that much data when you use it, or just background? I’m assuming you do use it? Always do this or just started?

    It seems like a fair bit for what is essentially just aGPS data. Would making its location setting less accurate consume less data? Can you clear cache?

    • asdftexc@mander.xyzOP
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      4 months ago

      I dont really use it no, it’s background data

      Can you freeze the app

      I think it needs root for system apps I guess?

      Always do this or just started?

      Maybe since a couple months, but maybe i just didn’t notice before. I tried clearing cache, not sure it fixed it but I’ll keep an eye on it haha. Thanks for the tips!