• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    3 months ago

    Ships like that can’t really sail on solar, or wind, and the ones using fossil fuels are extremely polluting, so I welcome this

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    3 months ago

    We’ve had naval reactors for decades. Noting that, what is the holdup with SMRs on land?

    • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.wtf
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      3 months ago

      They’re a solution in search of a problem. Renewables and storage costs are so low that there’s no business case for new nuclear, let alone the even more expensive SMRs.

      • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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        3 months ago

        The rapidly dropping cost of wind and solar has definitely tanked a lot of nuclear projects. The cost-benefit analysis done during the planning of a new nuclear plant is usually completely underwater 5 years later.

        However, there are some areas where there isn’t enough open ground for wind or solar installations, and nuclear would be a good option for replacing existing fossil fuel plants. Small modular reactors would be great for dense urban areas that are still supported by natural gas plants.

    • Einskjaldi@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      Navy ones are small because they’re weapons grade high enriched material, so it’s mostly a proliferation issue that they’re not used everywhere.

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      3 months ago

      When a naval reactor fails it gets submerged in water. When an inland reactor fails it either gets submerged in water or the area potentially becomes uninhabited for generations. It’s really all about access to water. Even an island nation like Japan has had trouble keeping nuclear reactors full of water in the past, e.g. Fukushima.

  • fubarx@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Nuclear heats up water to turn steam turbines to generate power. There’s still that loss from heat source to electricity stage they have to figure out.

    Source: https://www.nrc.gov/reading-rm/basic-ref/students/science-101/how-does-nuclear-power-plant-make-electricity

    The molten salt acts as both a heat storage buffer, and a backup shell if things go wrong. But if there’s a catastrophic failure and seawater gets in, the salt will dissolve in water and spew potentially radioactive particles far and wide. Not sure this is a good idea for use in water. At least, on land the molten salt will stay put.

  • lettruthout@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    “The companies point to the safety and efficiency achieved through the use of molten salt”

    “WCGW?” Said every nuclear proponent. And following yet another technical/economic failure: “This one for sure bro!”

    Fuck nuclear power.

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      3 months ago

      I’ll take a nuclear failure completely submerged in water over deisel bilgewater any day of the week.