I like Zohran Mamdani. I like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.

But if you think they have any chance to win a presidential election against Eric Trump or JD Vance, you are kidding yourself.

People living in Nevada, Texas, Michigan or Wisconsin are never going to vote for a muslim socialist or a latina.

Many americans get their news from Fox News or X.

They believe California/New York/Boston/Seattle/Chicago are disgusting shitholes full of crime, murder and pink-haired weirdos.

The next candidate should be :

- MALE

- WHITE

- Not from the West Coast or East Coast

- MILITARY VETERAN

I’m not talking about the ideas. I’m talking about the appearance. Please don’t think a muslim New Yorker or a latina stand a real chance against JD Vance.

They would be ANNIHILATED by Musk’s X and Fox News before the presidential campaign even sta

Many american progressives don’t know their own country.

I say this as as a foreigner

  • imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works
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    they already won, that’s how you know about them.

    Do you also believe an African-American can’t win the presidency?

    Because have I got news for you.

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      They won in some of the most progressive places in America. And Mamdani barely did that.

      I disagree that the Muslim or Latina bit is the bar but in a country where trump, even right now, seems to have a 40% approval rating doesn’t bode well for a hard Left candidate.

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      I expected this argument.

      "Kansas voted Obama"

      It happened after George W. Bush triggered TWO WARS and a FINANCIAL COLLAPSE. It was also before the rise of Fox News.

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        And I’ve heard your argument of “things cannot change despite them constantly changing.” a thousand times without any supporting evidence.

        Things change, have changed, and will change.

        Fox News started 12 years before Obama became president.

        trump just harshy lost his first war, has depleted US defense stock without being able to resupply, ceded technological superiority to China, gas prices are double what they were two years ago, has historically low approval ratings and the general US economy is in shambles.

        You are sad. fine. whatever. Time marches on.

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        And this is happening after Trump destroyed the economy, started and lost pointless wars, and increased inflation to unbelievable levels.

        Trump is worse than George W in more ways than one. I never thought we’d have a worse president than war criminal Bush, but here we are.

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    Zip it Ivan, as someone who actually lives here and isn’t just creating an account to stir shit the last thing we need is to put some pasty white old fool that nobody relates to on a ballot.

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      I literally just read an article here an hour ago about how LLM bots are starting to get through signup protocols on Lemmy and mods are becoming overburdened. They even mentioned a brigade of Russian bots that have been shit stirring and spreading propaganda.

      I would not be surprised if you are close to the truth here. Especially because this is supposed to be a good off my chest comm lol

      Edit: found it

      This problem is not only spam in the ‘click-here-for-free-dogecoin’ sense, IFTAS reports that the fediverse has been targeted by the Russian botnet Portal Kombat for misinformation and propaganda.

      https://piefed.social/post/2165924

      Edit 2: I was wrong, it’s a Mastodon thing but I wouldn’t be surprised if it came here eventually too.

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      the last thing we need is to put some pasty white old fool that nobody relates to on a ballot.

      Americans related to Donald Trump. That’s exactly how he became President of the United States twice.

      Are you aware of that?

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    It’s not that we don’t know how racist and horrible our countrymen are. It’s that, being surrounded by idiots isn’t an excuse for poor policy. We should have good policy regardless of the fact that we’re surrounded by idiots, and we should tell those idiots why good policy is good.

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    As much as I hate this, I think you are right. I might add they need to be good looking and straight.

    I honestly wish they would focus on execution and getting something, anything (even if imperfect) done. I don’t they they will do that either. 😕