• That day he was amazed to discover that when she said “please”, she had finally learned some goddamn manners.

    I love this movie, and quote it nearly daily.

    Now I know what you’re thinking, “Inconceivable!” but that’s just because you’ve fallen into one of the classic blunders!

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    “That day she was amazed to discover…”
    "What he meant was ‘Let’s bone sometime’ "

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      Allosexuals ruining romance, speedrun: go! Wow! A new record!

      No offense haha, I know your view is the majority one

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        You just can’t ignore the fuck-me eyes they’re giving each other through the whole beginning of the movie.

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          I mean…if your fusiform gyrus is horribly miswired or you have like… traumatic right hemisphere brain injury…you…can ignore them. It does lead to some inexplicable plot points if you don’t pick up on it though.

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    I’ve been saying this to my partner for years and she still hasn’t seen this movie (I have gently suggested, but know if I push it’ll never happen).

    Hehe, I can’t wait for her to connect the dots when she finally sees it.

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      I wanted to do the always sunny bit about Wade Boggs. You know the one. Where they say “he’s very much alive. What are talking about?”

      And then I checked up on it.

      Good news/bad news. Wade Boggs is very much alive. But rob reiner is not. Fucking hell…

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      He got real creepy looking as he got older, but like in a good way. He wields it for good.

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    I really dislike this aspect of Princess Bride.

    It’s not in any way a good/noble/desirable/sexy behaviour to a: fall in love with people the moment they speak to you, b: say passive aggressive shit like “as you wish” before you c: do whatever they’re telling you to do because d: you’re you want them to love you back. And to top it off e: not saying what you mean while expecting to be understood, is a massive dick move.

    I feel like this taught a whole generation of guys to expect this sort of behaviour to be what women want.

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      Yeah, so the premise is it’s a fairy tale being told to a kid going to bed.

      What do you want? Here kid lemme read you the “The Man’s Guide to Women: Scientifically Proven Secrets from the Love Lab About What Women Really Want” by John Gottman, PhD, Julie Schwartz Gottman, PhD, Douglas Abrams, and Rachel Carlton Abrams, MD.

      Narrated by Eric Michael Summerer

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        Did you purposely miss the point I was making for the bit, or do you genuinely believe your example is what I was trying to say?

        Creating good relationship models in childrens media is important, kids are still learning what these sorts of relationships are supposed to look like.

        The relationship between Westly and the princess is not a good example of a good relationship, and yet it’s portrayed as the hight of romantic fantasy in one of the most popular cult classic films of the last half century.

        The behaviour displayed by Westly is behaviour a lot of men have adopted for interacting with women.

        So maybe, just maybe, and stay with me here becausr this bit is complicated- if there were more examples of good relationship for these men to have grown up watching, they wouldn’t have internalised this mode of behaviour.

        A respectful relationship in a fairy tale shouldn’t be treated as impossible or unobtainable, it should be normal.

        If you still don’t understand, don’t bother replying.

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          I think I need to rewatch it because I thought the power balance was OK (considering she’s literal royalty so fuck that) and yeah he’s fawning but I thought it was good boundaries because it’s just like in his head? but it’s one of those subtle things like if it’s at all unwelcome or burdensome then it’s a bad example but if it’s just a private crush thing? then idk. Like I said I probably need to rewatch with a feminist lens to get all the text and nuance + 202X mixins that may have changed the context.

          I do try to interrogate stuff like this. One litmus test for it is would I have an issue if it was two gay women? or gay men? romantic asexuals? It sidesteps a bit of the gender and chaser politics, so it’s not perfect, but it can help me see past my own biases.

          Anyway sorry if I come off as defensive. Full disclosure maybe I am a bit, but I’m trying not to be.

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          You didn’t mention it, but her behavior towards him is just as problematic.

          Edit to add : The Princess Bride is a comedy. There’s a lot of behavior in it that you’re not supposed to emulate. Part of the fun, especially for kids, is the smug little glow of “I know better than to do that!”

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      a) they didn’t
      b) it wasn’t
      c/d) he didn’t
      e) you’re putting your own baggage on something much more simple and unassuming than you’re making it out to be.

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      “As you wish” is not a passive aggressive statement here though. She is the Princess and he is doing the proper protocol of saying “As you wish” after given a directive.

      Then later she puts it together that he’s using it to say “I love you”, which in that era might get him imprisoned for approaching royalty so vulgarly.