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    This does raise an interesting point of what singleplayer games even are for. People learn through play, but play is often quite divorced from reality to start with. The nasty, brutish and short lives of toy princesses become subtle intrigues of a fanfic and finally a schoolteacher tending to the social developments of a classroom.

    Perhaps it’s healthy to start out with a power fantasy like SimCity doing the city builder equivalent of hitting dolls against each other. Plopping down communes unilaterally and watching them bicker over inadequate commons before dropping a giant pile of bananas on them and sending in a tornado.

    Of course SimCity itself is funneling towards Usamerican suburbia, but the unilateral player-is-god element seems like a perfectly healthy way to teach players the most basic basics of city-scale social organisation.

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    “Bring an end to speculation and exploitation!”

    Have you met human beings?

    “The Sims know what’s best for them - just let them be!”

    And if it turns out they don’t, oh well! You can just say it’s not your fault, because you just stood by and didn’t take responsibility for anything!

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      Have you met human beings?

      Damn bro, the box ain’t gonna diss its own gameplay loop 😭

      And if it turns out they don’t, oh well! You can just say it’s not your fault, because you just stood by and didn’t take responsibility for anything!

      It operates on the same principle as the invisible hand of the market. The assertion is not (or should not be) meant as a total, all-circumstances-covered principle, but that the fundamental functioning of people does not require ordering to be viable.

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        the fundamental functioning of people does not require ordering to be viable.

        [citation needed]

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            Yes, I always form my socioeconomic conclusions based on television sitcoms, they’re the best source of opinions.

            Sarcasm aside, the idea presented here doesn’t work for any more complex form of cooperative labor (e.g. public water systems, telecommunications infrastructure, hospital services, large research projects, bridge construction, etc). Someone has to perform administrative duties to organize the work being done and ensure that the needed materials and experienced personnel show up at the right places at the right times.

            Like, try telling the head surgeon of an OR that the staff can be left to figure things out for themselves, and all the operations will get done correctly as scheduled without killing any patients. They’d laugh you out of the building. The surgery schedule would be chaos by the end of a single shift.

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              Yes, I always form my socioeconomic conclusions in the comments sections of meme communities, they’re the best place for debate.

              Sarcasm aside, you have strong opinions for someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

              Organisation doesn’t mean orders from above or coercion. People are perfectly capable of organising themselves without a master. Many cooperatives use a commissioner to organise the division of labour, but they’re crucially not a boss. Every one of their decisions can be challenged and overruled. Unlike a boss.

              The great thing about this system of non-coercion is you don’t need to participate. You can continue taking orders from someone you deem superior to yourself and we can self organise, and we can leave each other alone. No need to antagonise, because you can live your life and we can live ours.