• ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com
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      I actually know a guy who thinks bisexuality is completely made up. Straight? Fine. Gay? Fine. Bisexual? FAKE.

      He thinks that you are either attracted to “male” or “female”. But both or anything else is completely invalid.

      Not the only absurd opinion he holds though so I wasn’t that surprised when he came out with this shit.

  • Druid@lemmy.zip
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    I’m still not sure if I’m bi or pan. If I have a preference for a gender, probably more so bi than pan right? The distinction is pretty arbitrary, I feel like, but not knowing for sure kinda grinds my gears

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      "If I have a preference for a gender, probably more so bi than pan right? "

      Roughly, yeah, but that’s not a hard distinction, as you highlight in your comment. Identity labels can get pretty wibbly wobbly, even besides the “objective” definitions of the terms. Leaning into that fact is how I find peace with the indefinite nature of labels.

      For instance, if I look at just the definitions, then I would probably be considered pan. However, I prefer to call myself bisexual, for a few reasons:

      • Identities mostly function as an outward facing thing — cis-het folk are way less likely to know what pansexual means, and I don’t want to have to define stuff.
      • I learned about bisexuality before I did pansexuality, so I have irrational emotional attachment to the label “bisexual”
      • I prefer the bi flag. I made a dress in those colours once, and it looked like a regular nice dress. This is a silly reason, but that’s exactly my point.

      I find it useful to think of identity labels as being a thing we wear, or use, more than something we are. This distinction between bi and pan that you highlight in your comment didn’t always exist, for example, but this developed organically through discourse. That means that someone could identify as bi, and later find that, due to the changing of word meanings, that pan is the one that fits them better, even if they haven’t changed at all during this period. This means that even people who find that they have labels that perfectly capture their identity may not always find that to be the case.

      That’s why I like leaning into my own subjective preferences. It frees me somewhat from being beholden to the changing meanings of things. I can’t really form a stable sense of identity if I’m trying to cling to objective definitions, because they don’t really exist. I’ve had people tell me that I’m pan, not bi, but they can’t take my identity away from me. It doesn’t matter if the reasons for identifying as bi are silly and arbitrary, because they’re mine. I tried on that label for a while, and it felt right in a way that pansexual didn’t.

      TL;DR: it’s okay to go by vibes

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      I ended up picking the bi label because im attracted to all (and null) genders but the attraction is different between them. I guess that’s “omni”, but I’m old and like the bi label more. The flag is also excellent.

      Like you said, the distinction is mostly arbitrary and will differ between any 2 people. Whatever fits your vibe at the time, no reason you cant reidentify later.

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      As a bi/pan person myself I’ve always seen them as meaning the same thing, the difference is maybe in connotation.

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        I thought the distinction is that being bisexual involves attraction to the physicality of more than one specific gender, but that pan involves attraction to people primarily based on things about them other than their physicality

        So in really simplified and not all inclusive terms: a guy who likes the physique of men and women would be bi. A guy who has fallen for men and women (but is not particularly attracted to any specific physique) would be pan.

        Bi is basically open-mindedness about attraction to physiques, and pan is open-mindedness about attraction to personalities that may be wildly different. In either case tho neither is likely to have a real “type” in the conventional sense

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          I thought the distinction is that being bisexual involves attraction to the physicality of more than one specific gender, but that pan involves attraction to people primarily based on things about them other than their physicality

          I don’t think so. I think that last part is usually called demisexual. The only distinction between bi and pan I’ve ever seen articulated is that pan explicitly includes all genders, while bi only implicitly includes all genders because you could imagine some bi chud being like “bi means 2 I’m only attracted to men and women get that woke agenda out of here” but I’ve never actually met such a person so sans-shrug

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    Yep this. Been in a committed hetero relationship for a decade.

    If I was single I’d probably hit up grindr don’t fucking doubt me

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    I bet my parenta think im gay because of my homosexual relationship. Also i get told a lot that i am gay because i hang more with queer guys than with bi/straight woman…really annoying