cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/55303045

Analysis by Channel 4 News has identified emails within the latest Epstein files that suggest that the mountain of information released by the US Department of Justice could amount to just a fraction of the total – potentially just 2% of the information that the FBI retrieved from Epstein’s homes.

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    22 hours ago

    I would say a lot of the information is made up of pics and video yet, mostly only documents have been released. It def is a coverup and they know it, we know it and the whole world knows it.

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    This is getting so fucking ridiculous. How come other countries are holding their perps to the fire and we aren’t? Embarrassing.

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      23 hours ago

      This is were ex-price Andrew lives how:

      I wouldn’t call couple of early retirements “holding to the fire”. Hopefully Mandelson will be prosecuted but I’m not giving UK any credit until he’s actually in jail.

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        I support your sentiment, but this photo is sensationalist and factually not true.

        That is of Sandringham house, which is partly open the public. I don’t think they would even allow him to come near it besides perhaps Christmas.

        What is true is that he does live on Sandringham estate, there are many properties on that estate.

        The house he is in is called Marsh farm, a 5 bedroom, 2 bathroom building 1.5 miles away from Sandringham house.

        Because the area is known to be pretty cold its been dubbed “royal version if exile to Siberia”

        Its still a grotesque example of unfair justice between classes but its not a palace.

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    Knowing that Epstein had hidden cameras at all of his properties and seeing the FBI photos of hundreds of hard drives tells me that we haven’t even scratched the surface.

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    Everybody is laser focused on this like it is some sort of silver bullet but if you don’t pay attention this orange fuck is going to highjack the midterms and then you are truly fucked

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    So they will lie about “having released all the information” for the next 10 years.

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    Oh I’m sorry that you only got the text releases, you really want the photos and videos that make up 98% of the data?

    Edit: not defending the DoJ for covering up emails but “percentage of data” is a stupid metric here

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      I mean it may seem stupid but it does show that not all the files where released as per the congressional law passed by unanimity and signed by President Trump.

      Not to mention if the damage the released files is already bad, imagine how much more is in the overwhelming majority not released

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        as someone on reddit mentioned, they are releasing only small bits at a time so they can hope people can get bored of the news eventually.

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            they are hoping to diluting outrage overtime, right now Republicans are told not to listen or see with thier eyes or ears on the epstein files. as epstein files came out some foreign entities already resigned due to it, none in america yet.

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      I don’t want to be the one to view them, but I want them to be viewable.

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        You want the CSAM to be viewable? You are calling for the public release of CSAM?

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          A necessary casualty. Somewhere in that material is evidence of abuse, and it needs to be investigated and prosecuted. We can’t trust the current administration to adequately do either of those things in good faith, so it needs to be analyzed publicly if there is ever to be any sort of justice for the victims.

          A functional justice system would have resolved this years ago, but we don’t have one of those so I really don’t see any alternative other than making everything public.

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          If its viewable then it will be a lot more difficult for idiots to argue that the Epstein files is a hoax

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            You want kid’s histories of child abuse viewable for… evidence?

            Wow… yeah, we need to re-traumatize kids by posting their naked bodies online because that’s how we prove Epstein really abused kids

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              Then censor their identities. The reality is they’re trying to push the narrative that they didn’t abuse children, and if they released it that narrative would be completely crushed which would be far more devastating for the government than what’s happening right now.

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          Yes. That is the only path forward given the statements and reusable to move forward with any charges.

          They are counting on our ick to get away with this. They have actually used this as a reason. Why should anyone still giving them the benefit of the doubt? They are child predators and child predator enablers. By siding with them, you become one of them.

          Releasing documentation of what happened doesn’t change what happened, it isn’t going to incentivize rich assholed to make more.

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            21 hours ago

            How does CSAM tell you anything about the abuser? It only reveals the victim.

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              Often the abuser is in the photo. That’s led to the arrest of many a child abuser. The only reason that releasing the evidence in this case is necessary is that the people who we usually trust to look at the evidence and pursue the guilty party are not doing their fucking jobs.

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                Really? You see a lot of CSAM? That’s not my understanding of it at all, but I’ll defer to the expert

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                  That’s fine, becoming an expert in the field is a fucking nightmare. Even the people who can stomach it need regular therapy to keep them from suffering too much trauma. I would not recommend it.

                  I do not see a lot of csam, I’m not in law enforcement or the legal arts. However, I’ve worked with people who do both, and there’s also plenty of literature on the subject. Studying the material itself is absolutely necessary to solve a lot of these crimes.

                  It’s not often the abusers directly showing their face, but that does happen more often than you think. Criminals are often dumb. But you can tell a lot from the backgrounds, or objects carelessly left in view, like newspapers or phones or food wrappers. Locations can be determined. If the child can be identified and it’s unclear who took the pictures, you can identify the people they were in contact with and use the photos to narrow down the search.

                  In this case, the photos were taken partly as blackmail material, so they are very useful to find the people guilty of the abuse, and prove their guilt.

                  Now, I am sure you would agree that what should happen is that the DOJ and the FBI should go over all this evidence, using all the resources they have available, the professional investigators, etc, which does not require releasing any pictures to the public. Any that do get released, to satisfy the public right to know, should be carefully redacted to protect identities of the victims, not show their bodies even if they cannot be identified, etc, because that is basic decency.

                  WE ARE WAY PAST FUCKING “SHOULD”.

                  The FBI and DOJ are dead. They are useless sacks of shit. They have been captured by the people who did the crime. There is now no alternative but to crowdsource the justice that has been denied by normal means. That means that the pictures should be released, with victims redacted, and abusers left visible, so the world can know who they are and exact what justice can be obtained by whatever means.

                  Yes, that’s not ideal. Ideal left the conversation years ago.