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Every Homeland Security officer on the ground in Minneapolis, including those from Immigration and Customs Enforcement, will be immediately issued body-worn cameras, Secretary Kristi Noem said Monday, in the latest fallout after the shooting deaths of two U.S. citizens at the hands of federal agents.
The news of the body cameras comes as Minneapolis has been the site of intense scrutiny over the conduct of federal officers after two U.S. citizens protesting immigration enforcement activities in the city were shot and killed.
It is the latest effort by the Trump administration to alleviate tensions after the shootings and show it is responding to calls for accountability.
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The problem is that even confirmed abuse does not get prosecuted. Adding more evidence won’t help.
Will they be held responsible if they “forgot to switched it on” or “left it in the office” or “accidentally deleted that file”?
Oh good this will be much better now that these crimes will be heavily recorded. The problem before is we didn’t have multiple angles of the crime recorded or something like a cell phone recording by the ICE agent.
Haha, will they be turned on? That’s a rhetorical question, don’t answer.
If it supports their side of the story it will be
Yes.
Are they going to turn the cameras on?
or the video footage not being withheld from the public?
Are people really still confused about this? Police loves body cams. Body cams make it easier for them to prosecute people and let them gather intel on protesters. If by accident body cam records something inconvenient they just hide the footage. Body cams are for surveillance, not accountability.
So yes, they will turn them on and they will stream all the footage to Palantir.
You already know they won’t, and even if they do, a malfunction will always be the reason the footage was lost, unless it helps them track and arrest protestors.
Even if, what does it even matter? Multiple people filmed how they executed people and it didn’t matter
They will wear them, they will have them on. When they murder people, we will see. However, just like now, nothing will happen. And, I think this will lead to more staged executions like Pretti. They will just be slightly better actors.
I fully expect that they will release ai-doctored body cam footage
Look at this ICE officer handing out roses to black people.
Oh THAT I would believe. And it will be crazy obvious, yet they will deny it.
Depends on whose agenda it helps.
They all have Grok AI integrated to ensure that they’re Always On™ and that all of the totally real and accurate details of the violent antifa rioters brandishing their automatic assault pistols are enhanced to perfect, crystal-clear HD
I doubt they will even wear them
The problem isn’t lack of evidence, it’s lack of accountability and consequences. Adding another camera on the scene doesn’t fix the issue.
Comprehensive reviews of body cam usage already put into question the overall efficacy of body cameras (https://doi.org/10.1111/1745-9133.12412 is the one I see cited most often, not sure if there are newer systematic reviews).
And that one also comes to the conclusion, especially regarding effects on use-of-force:
Ariel et al. (2016a) recently provided one nuanced explanation to these mixed findings. They discovered that when officers have more discretion in turning on their cameras, they tend to exhibit greater uses of force than officers who have less discretion regarding their BWCs [Body-worn Cameras]. In most of the use-of-force studies reviewed earlier, researchers did not track activation and therefore it was not clear to what extent Ariel et al.’s nuance is salient. If activation is related to use of force in these ways, however, consistently training, reinforcing, and supervising the implementation of mandatory policies may be needed to secure a positive effect of BWCs on reported uses of force
That, combined with the seemingly more gung-ho internal processes in DHS/ICE, also leads me to believe in few positive outcomes here – especially with the ‘editorial monopoly’ in institutional hands.
This assholes won’t actually use them correctly and conveniently “lose” the footage when needed, but generally having more cameras does actually help.
Yes the hard part of accountability is the elephant in the room, but I’m just saying, more cameras is always better than less.
We agree, I’m not against more cameras. I just don’t see it changing anything when they’d already voluntarily pull out their personal device to record themselves killing someone.
With an off switch, no doubt.
Who cares, we’ve already seen video of them shooting people for less than good reason and not a fucking thing happened
That’s great! They’d never murder someone on camera!
“Does this AR-15 make my ass look fat?”
-Dons tinfoil hat-
What if this policy is used to gather visual data to train an AI model to generate false attacks on ICE in one calm area to justify escalation in another hot area?
This would give them free rein to attack a peaceful neighbourhood based on the AI false flag attack and to escalate tensions between peaceful protestors in another part of the city / country.
I thought that’s what they were already doing. They have been caught posting edited images already.
Back in the Naughties, I thought this approach would matter, would rein in police abuse.
I didn’t understand that police violence and mendacity were systemic, cultural problems, not evidentiary ones.
It would work if the cops weren’t able to turn them off and the footage was uploaded to servers not owned by the PD.
Don’t care. Fuck you. Go to prison.
Really leaning into their snuff films now instead of looking for public views.
Narrator “they turned the cameras off”
Because, you know, we don’t want the cameras to always be on. What if something happened and they need to shoot a sassy mom in the face for driving at less than 5 mile per hour?
Happens every day, that is why our agents fear for their lives. Have YOU ever seen a car going 5 miles an hour? I doubt it, hippy
Now they got two hands for killing us. Hands free mode.
