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The online survey of 1,002 U.S. adults was conducted between Jan. 13 and 15. It found that 66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation
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So 17% of Americans are our enemy
The question then becomes: will the other 83% be our ally and stop this 17%?
17% are willing to say that they WANT Canada to be part of the US. Only two-thirds are willing to say they would prefer Canadian independence.
What percentage would really care if their stated preference was not reality? The ceiling is 2 out of 3. The ceiling. That is as good as it gets.
What percentage would lift a finger to resist US dominion over Canada? What percentage would actively resist or take on any level of effort and or risk at all to prevent it? Dramatically less.
If the US invaded Canada, what percentage of Americans would choose to support Canada over their own county even if the invasion was illegal or immoral? Clearly, the majority would support their government. In that scenario, what percentage of Americans would you consider to represent “the enemy?”
And if you think I am being too harsh, let’s ask the question from a different angle. What percentage of Americans are doing anything at all to reduce the threat to Canada right now? I mean, doing anything at all? Only 2 in 3 can muster indicating it as a preference in answer to a question.
Many people reading this will insist that they did not ask for this. What percentage of those voted against Donald Trump in the last federal election? That number is less than one third. That is an easily verifiable fact. Less than one in three did the absolute bare minimum to stop the second Trump term from happening. That means 2 out of every 3 Americans did nothing back then. What are they doing now?
You need to revise your 17% number in your first sentence up dramatically. I am not hopeful that they answer to your second question hits anything close to double digits.
Well, only 66% said they didn’t want the USA to invade Canada. So no, we won’t have the support of 83%. We’d be lucky to have 40% actually speak up on our behalf, and even fewer would act.
17% is more than one in six. That number sounds uncomfortably high.
I know perhaps two dozen Americans who are friends, current and former colleagues, or family. It’s disturbing to think that statistically there are perhaps 3 or 4 that don’t think that the country that I love, that is my home, that has allied with them and sacrificed for that alliance, should exist. That I should bow to their power. It’s psycho shit.
I think it’s hard for people in other countries to realize how deeply propagandized Americans have been for their entire lives. They are relentlessly taught that the USA is the greatest country and the only place anyone in their right mind would want to live, and that the USA brings freedom to the world, even as they suffer bad working conditions, crappy housing, a violent society and poor education and healthcare. They believe they are the only country with true freedom, even as they’re allowed to embrace a range of political views all the way from neoliberalism to fascism, murdered by brutal armed police, and imprisoned at the highest rate in the world.
So some of these will be so steeped in the propaganda that they genuinely believe US invasions are doing other countries a favour.
So basically just the deepest fascist base supporters.
I wish the worst towards all of those who wish to invade us. So fucking sick of these imperialists.
So what percentage of them would like Canada to annex the US?
Promise? 🫦
Me me me!
I kind of want an American to ask me all butthurt why I don’t want to join the US, just so I can use the 11th province line.
I don’t want them to be Canadian either though. We have enough problems with Alberta. Pulling in any state will be even worse.
Exactly, too many magats even in “blue” states
Oh ok I’ll do it:
Bwaah bwaah
Bu…but whhhyy don’t you wanna be Amewican?!
they will all die in the yukon and the high artic trying to take it. theres a reason why most of alaska is uninhabitable.
85% of the Canadian population is within 100 miles of the US border. Why would they go to the high arctic?
I’d challenge this 17% to tell us three things they know about Canada that aren’t sports related.
Not American but I’ll try
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It’s cold
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don’t mess with the moose or the geese
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… ah fuck
You fuck with us ya get the moose or the goose
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They’d quickly change their minds if they knew how expensive the gas prices would get after they invaded and their oil refinement infrastructure gets hit like Russia’s has been.
I guess it serves as a data point indicating what the percentage of Americans who will agree to the craziest shit available on the opinion poll answers is up to now. Seems to me it was as low as 10% not too many years ago.
That’s actually encouragingly low, in light of their usual appetite for smiting enemies.
1 in 6 is not low.
66 per cent of respondents want Canada to remain an independent nation
Huh. The 33% implied in the text is weirdly double the 17% reported. Who are the delusional 16% who want to take over the country, but without using a word they can’t pronounce or define?
There’s a graphic in the article with a breakdown, 17% are “Not sure”
While that’s normal for surveys like this, it’s also annoying. They’re unsure about if they want a war with their next door neighbour?
No, they’re not “not sure”, they’re just cowards unwilling to voice their opinion because they know it’s morally objectionable.
It’s possible many of that 17% are ‘not sure’ because they failed to understand the question and couldn’t be bothered to read it twice. They are Americans.
Some people are just too alienated from things and when asked about their opinion, they’re like ‘errr I don’t know, not sure’, and that’s usually not because they understand the matter but are unsure of it, but because they don’t understand the matter at all
Usually that also includes “didn’t respond”/DR/NR. I would assume this was a multi question survey and that 17% includes at least some DR/NR.
Why is this showing percentages in a positive light compared to their obvious negative?
One because 17% is shockingly high and two because 66% of people wanting them to remain independent it’s shockingly low. There’s no positive here at all.
I mean yea 17 is 17 too high. No win here… But it feels weird to log 17 like it was 71.
