• PugJesus@piefed.socialOPM
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      Yes, I’m sure the decline and fall of the Empire led to a much better situation for ordinary people and a blossoming of civilized arts. After all, it was an empire! The magic word makes it void of redeeming features, unlike such holsum words as ‘Kingdom’ or ‘League’.

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          So do the Japanese nowadays, but I don’t think the fall of the Empire was really relevant to that.

          The decline and fall of the Empire set back European civilization hundreds of years. The subsequent period was one of recovery from a significant loss, not an improvement over what preceded it. Only after hundreds of years of recovery, arguably over a thousand, did conditions for Italians improve from what they were during the height of the Empire.

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            thought it was obvious a non serious answer.

            though The Roman empire was great for its upper class,. the average person quality of life wasn’t that great.

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              thought it was obvious a non serious answer.

              Unfortunately, I’ve seen far too many serious “The fall of the Roman Empire improved quality of life because it was an empire and therefore bad” arguments.

              though The Roman empire was great for its upper class,. the average person quality of life wasn’t that great.

              The average person’s quality of life wasn’t that great after either; and, for that matter, became considerably worse following the Empire’s fall.

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                personally, I don’t feel that bad for an empire that went around enslaving every territory it conquered until it ended up destroying it’s own economy.

                and please don’t reply with “every empire did that”. because they weren’t really invading competing empires but populated regions in their way.

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                  personally, I don’t feel that bad for an empire that went around enslaving every territory it conquered until it ended up destroying it’s own economy.

                  what.

                  and please don’t reply with “every empire did that”. because they weren’t really invading competing empires but populated regions in their way.

                  … what do you think the peoples whom the Roman conquered did to each other? Or to the Romans themselves, for that matter?

                  Do I have to launch into a lecture on Celtic and Germanic endemic warfare?

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    Don’t worry little guy … enjoy the current empire as much as you can because its on the verge of falling right now.