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I bring a sort of “paying taxes to fascists is bad” vibe to the ethics discussion that libs don’t really like
In a practical sense - how long can you avoid paying federal income taxes before the IRS drags you away in cuffs? I know its a game of chicken. But Trump’s slumpy stroke face gives me hope that the whole MAGA movement will dissolve when he doesn’t wake up one morning because a cheeseburger clogged a vessel in his brain.
how long
Pretty long time if you’ve got half a brain and only work under table.
Ask your local illegalist (anti? Something sometjing creative urge destructive urge?)social worker!
Edit: depending on your line of work and how on-grid you want to be, a shady accountant may also be required.
In a practical sense - how long can you avoid paying federal income taxes before the IRS drags you away in cuffs?
just fucking move. I left the UK because they are funding a dragnet survailance operation worldwide, and I’m doing good.
Its genuinely very difficult to move out of the US if you aren’t decently wealthy.
Native born americans are at a severe disadvantage moving anywhere else in the world. If you’re a UK citizen you can hop on a plane and have full rights on any corner of the earth. But I’m exploring possible avenues in case things get really bad here. I’m still crossing my fingers that Trump bites it from natural causes and the subsequently maga movement collapses in upon itself.
Leaving the country, for a trip or whatever, isn’t too hard if you already have a passport. Moving out permanently and living in another country is much harder and more expensive. Prohibitively so, for the vast majority of Americans.
And, just for fun, if you pull it off, the US still expects you to pay taxes to both it and your new country of residence
And , just for fun, if you pull it off, the US still expects you to pay taxes to both it and your new country of residence
only if you earn really high salary. Like much over 100k
Ah gotcha, I didn’t know that!
But not if you are an American freelancer. In which case you’re fucked by both countries
How expensive do you think a passport is?
It’s been a few years since I got mine… maybe a hundred dollars? A bit more? I remember being more distressed about having to mail away my physical birth certificate than the cost
EDIT: according to the State Department website, it’s $165 for an adult for the book
You do know moving us more than just walking there, right?
You get a pretty fat tax deduction for living outside of the US, upwards of 100k
Ethically? Totally agree. Practically? The IRS is one of the last three-letter agencies I want to piss off.
