SDF Chatter
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • Create Community
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
Dr. Moose@lemmy.world to science@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 年前

Tiny gut “sponge” bacteria found to flush out toxic PFAS “forever chemicals”

www.sciencedaily.com

external-link
message-square
64
link
fedilink
507
external-link

Tiny gut “sponge” bacteria found to flush out toxic PFAS “forever chemicals”

www.sciencedaily.com

Dr. Moose@lemmy.world to science@lemmy.worldEnglish · 1 年前
message-square
64
link
fedilink
Cambridge scientists have spotted gut bacteria that greedily soak up PFAS “forever chemicals,” then ferry them safely out of the body in animal tests, removing up to three-quarters of the toxins within minutes. Their findings hint at probiotic pills that could shield people from PFAS-linked cancers, fertility issues, and heart disease while lawmakers scramble to rein in 4,700 widespread compounds.
alert-triangle
You must log in or register to comment.
  • xep@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    61
    ·
    1 年前

    Doesn’t really seem like they’ll get rid of what’s already in the bloodstream and no real mention of safety yet, but it looks promising.

    • Kyle@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      27
      ·
      1 年前

      I wonder if there are other ways pfas might be circulated out of the bloodstream and back into the digestive system to be collected by this microfauna.

      One of the ways oats and oatmeal reduce the amount of cholesterol in your body is by binding to the cholesterol in bile so it’s excreted instead of being re-absorbed. So the cholesterol could already be in the bloodstream, converted into bile, then excretes with the oats once it’s combined. This clearly has multiple essential organs helping the process, but still, a mechanism like this could still make a difference over time.

      • canihasaccount@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        21
        ·
        1 年前

        There’s some evidence for the same mechanism of action reducing PFAS:

        https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0041008X24003879

        https://ehjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12940-025-01165-8

        • Kyle@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          6
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 年前

          Welp, I’m having oats for breakfast tomorrow 😄

          • anomnom@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 年前

            Just gotta make sure they aren’t already full of microplastics.

        • Deebster@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 年前

          Even better, those studies are testing dietary fibre generally, not just oats, so anyone eating their daily fruits and vegetables is already getting that benefit.

    • Hardeehar@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      ·
      1 年前

      Time to start donating blood regularly. Someone else will get plastics sure, but they’ll need the blood for more pressing reasons.

      • HubertManne@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 年前

        I wish I was not a needlephobe as there is some indication it can be good for you the same way things that encourage your old cells to die (senolytics) are good.

        • Hardeehar@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          1 年前

          Fasting is a good way to achieve that.

          But as far as donating goes, there may be a day you might be the recipient of much needed blood donations.

          Had a lady need 12 bags of blood after almost exsanguinating following a really complicated delivery (both survived). She never gave blood before due to fear of needles, but now is a regular blood donor because of the importance of it. She told me to not wait and just start giving.

          • HubertManne@piefed.social
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 年前

            I have a hard time believing she was a needlephobe and not more of a person who was not wild about needles as phobias do not disapear so easily.

            • Minnels@lemmy.zip
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              1 年前

              Pregnancy changes people.

              • Hardeehar@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 年前

                I 100% agree with this

            • Hardeehar@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              1 年前

              That’s arguable. But she did her first blood donation and it took her around 3 hours.

              • HubertManne@piefed.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                1 年前

                okay. that sounds like phobia. thats how long it took to get my meningitis shot in college. walked around the quad yelling at myself in my head.

      • fucktrump@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        The microplastics get filtered really well in donations, so you’re definitely not doing any harm!

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    49
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    1 年前

    As long as it doesn’t hurt the PFAS industry profit margins.

    /s

    • filcuk@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      16
      ·
      1 年前

      It will quadruple revenue - deregulation and PFAS for everyone!
      Hope you can afford regular sponge bacteria cleansing baths, or you get them super-cancers real quick.

      • Noodle07@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        I hate that we’re living in the stellaris timeline

        • H4CK3RN4M3D4N63R570RM@lemmy.ca
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          ·
          1 年前

          It would suck to live in any of the empires I’ve created.

          • Noodle07@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 年前

            We dont deserve mandatory pampering

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        1 年前

        It’s the way the world was meant to be monetised!

    • thelivefive@startrek.website
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 年前

      The fact that this /s was even slightly needed :(

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        Omg, ikr?

        People automatically start bitching about anything ever so slightly restricting harmful corporation’s actions even when they aren’t even involved with the profits (which also shouldn’t matter, but it’s funny that it’s not even their greed, just brainwashed by propaganda they happily repeat & would die for).

  • Bloomcole@crazypeople.onlineBanned
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    34
    ·
    edit-2
    1 年前

    Removed by mod

    • Agent641@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      1 年前

      Whoops, long term studies show it turns the host into a zombie after 4 years.

      • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        10
        ·
        1 年前

        1000001758

      • burgerpocalyse@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        1 年前

        deleted by creator

  • SGGeorwell@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    30
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 年前

    • 😈MedicPig🐷BabySaver😈@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      1 年前

      I’ll take the whole case.

  • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    ·
    1 年前

    Awesome, nature finds a way. Wonder how common this removal is with other things, also, engineering one for nanoplastic removal would be a huge win!

    • BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      18
      ·
      1 年前

      There has been found a fungus that evolved to consume microplastics already! https://lamycosphere.com/en-int/blogs/the-futur-is-fungi/plastikfressende-pilze-sind-eine-naturliche-losung-fur-die-umweltverschmutzungskrise?srsltid=AfmBOopXsq1C4V3QswKk2bVz1-Y9NNbbDa5VhLclmQyVl-LkNqrijkvl

      And a black one that consumes radiation! They’re working on a way to use that as a self healing radiation shielding in space! https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiotrophic_fungus

      • buddascrayon@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 年前

        Just keep in mind how close our flesh is to plastic, chemically speaking. Anything that is really good at breaking down hydrocarbons may find us pretty tasty too.

        • Bloomcole@crazypeople.onlineBanned
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 年前

          Removed by mod

          • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            6
            ·
            1 年前

            We are comprised of tangled chains of hydrogen, oxygen, carbon, with a sprinkle of various others. Plastic is slightly more complex chains, developed from the dead and entombed carcasses of ancient flora and fauna. That entombment process adjusts, but doesn’t fundamentally alter the chemistry of those chains.

            • Bloomcole@crazypeople.onlineBanned
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              1 年前

              Removed by mod

      • Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        1 年前

        Estimations indicate that approximately a 21 cm thick layer could significantly deflect the annual amount of radiation received on Mars’ surface.

  • Inucune@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    1 年前

    I’m waiting for people to start using leeches again to treat pfas in the blood.

    • SheeEttin@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      ·
      1 年前

      That’s actually a valid treatment! Although really they’d probably just take a pint here and there. When you do, the body produces new, pure blood.

      • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        12
        ·
        edit-2
        1 年前

        Yup, most efficient is to donate plasma, can reduce levels by a third in 6 months.

        • ChexMax@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 年前

          Hmm I wonder if women have less pfas in the blood because of periods?

          • MalReynolds@slrpnk.net
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 年前

            Likely so.

        • Match!!@pawb.social
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          1 年前

          cries in gay and microplastic

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      10
      ·
      1 年前

      Regular plasma donation is the most effective treatment. Blood donation works, too, but you can only donate blood every two months, versus plasma donations up to twice a week.

      • DaPorkchop_ [they/she/it]@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        1 年前

        Isn’t that just passing the PFAS on to whoever ends up getting injected with your donation?

        • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          1 年前

          Yes and no.

          If you regularly donate, your PFAS levels will be well below average, so your blood/plasma will actually lower the recipient’s concentrations. Not quite as low as it brings down your concentrations, but still lower than average.

          Further, with plasma, they extract the proteins to produce various medications. That process leaves the PFAS with the remaining, depleted plasma, which is then discarded.

          But, even if your concentrations are significantly above average, and the recipient receives whole blood/plasma from you, they are only receiving 1 unit from you, adding to 8 or 9 units of their own. Their net blood concentration rises only 1/8th above average as your own concentration.

          The lifesaving value of your PFAS-contaminated blood is infinitely higher than the risks posed by your PFAS.

          Tl;dr: Don’t discard your blood.

        • Bilb!@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          1 年前

          Yeah, better to just do old fashioned bloodletting.

      • y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        Too bad I pass out every time :(

    • BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 年前

      Bloodletting all the way.

      But donate it.

  • sandwich.make(bathing_in_bismuth)@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 年前

    The pefapocalyps is coming. Why does fluor have to be such a clingy sensitive bitch clinging to cheats-with-anyone carbon? Now carbon is in a toxic relationship :(

  • Avicenna@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    1 年前

    Oh fuck I mean I would love this to be real but this is going to be abused so much in the next couple years. Supermarket shelves and social media posts will fucking be filled with drinks and pills containing (probably nonviable forms) these bacteria by the loads. Good luck everyone.

    Also most of us already have enough microplastic embedded in our brains to last a lifetime.

    • matlag@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      6
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 年前

      And a few years later the bacteria is found to cause even worse diseases…

      • kadu@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        1 年前

        I know it’s a joke, but that’s almost certainly not going to be the case. Pathogenic bacteria have fundamentally different metabolism and genes.

        What is more likely is either: ecological imbalance or the bacteria only metabolises the harmful chemicals under extreme deprivation of other carbon sources, which is never realistic, so they never do

        • Avicenna@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          1 年前

          Well I mean if people throw off their gut microbiome by overloading on this bacteria, it might still be harmful in that way. It does not need to be pathogenic in that sense.

          • kadu@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 年前

            Its actually hard to survive the human gut

      • SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        1 年前

        But it is neutralized by microplastics…

      • Avicenna@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        But before that they will discover some nutrients which are very beneficial for this bacteria so people will also consume that by the loads.

  • Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    18
    ·
    1 年前

    That’s fucking great! I hope they are safe to use in people and make it to market soon.

    • jaybone@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 年前

      Then 20 years from now, we’ll all have micro sponges in our ovaries and testicles.

  • Rhaxapopouetl@ttrpg.network
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 年前

    Imagine talking about a bacteria that could save lives and never naming it! For those who want to know, it’s in the nature article: E.coli and pseudomonas are the ones cited in the source document, widely spread bacteria already in your gut. Sooooo…

    • DacoTaco@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 年前

      Soooo… Regular gut biome already does this? Or are they talking about the e.coli that gives you the shits and food poisoning? Cause if its the latter, yes it will clean you quickly… Together will all liquids in your digestive system

    • Erik L. Midtsveen 🏴🌈@lemmy.wtf
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 年前

      You saved me a click!

    • ssillyssadass@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      1 年前

      If they’re already in my gut, does that mean I have less forever chemicals in me than otherwise?

  • InternetRando@lemmy.myserv.oneBanned
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    1 年前

    That looks like a mitochondria, which is the powerhouse of the cell.

  • lol_idk@piefed.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    1 年前

    So you poop them out into the water and perpetuate the cycle

    • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      1 年前

      You shouldn’t drink poop water my friend

      • SirActionSack@aussie.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        Good enough for astronauts, good enough for , lol_idk

      • lol_idk@piefed.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 年前

        All water is poop water

  • Etterra@discuss.online
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    1 年前

    Everything lasts forever until it doesn’t.

science@lemmy.world

science@lemmy.world

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !science@lemmy.world

A community to post scientific articles, news, and civil discussion.

dart board;; science bs

rule #1: be kind

lemmy.world rules

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 829 users / day
  • 1.76K users / week
  • 4.53K users / month
  • 7.11K users / 6 months
  • 140 local subscribers
  • 28.3K subscribers
  • 2.79K Posts
  • 27.4K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • m3t00🌎🇺🇦@lemmy.world
  • Joleee@lemmy.world
  • laverabe@lemmy.world
  • DeadPand@midwest.social
  • laverabe@lemmy.zip
  • BE: 0.19.20
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org