This is an abduction, not arrest. It was in international waters. Countries need to start sanctioning israel
Indeed. The only real reason for a country to detain a boat on international waters is if it is suspected of piracy or slave transport. Or if the boat is legally posing as something it is not, such faking the flag they are sailing under.
They kidnapped her. Get it right.
Yeah but telegraph.co.uk
Something is wrong with this article. It seems strangely obsessed with Thunberg smiling at some point (mentioned several times in the article, with a well-timed shot that makes her appear to smile at a soldier handing her a bun). It acknowledges that the boat was seized “near Egypt”, but was it in international or Egyptian waters? Surely that would have been an important detail that any real journalist would like to include? It uncritically cites propaganda points handed out by Israeli officials:
- the journey was a publicity stunt (“selfie yacht”), not a protest
- equating the protest as a whole to Greta Thunberg as a person. I had previously mentioned how I enjoyed that the organization did not boast about her participation.
- Thunberg was more concerned about her ego than about handing some “meagre” aid to Gazans. Yet the aid was confiscated.
- and the classic: supporting Palestinians means siding with Hamas terrorists.
I had to downvote OP because they could’ve chosen a better source I’m sure.
The Telegraph is a far-right British tabloid.
Of course they’re propagandizing for the Fascist White Colonialism project committing Genocide.
Yeah it used to be their (UK) project initially. And while I’m hazy on the specifics, they supported it in ways that weren’t always kosher, to put it mildly.
The leadership of the current party in Government in the UK got their positions (both leading their party and subsequently their Government seats, as the UK like the US has a power duopoly thanks to the mathematical manipulation of the FPTP voting system, so as usual they eventually switched places in Government with the other party of the duopoly) as result of a campaign done with the help of Israeli-linked British Jewish associations against the previous leader of the party (the first leftwinger elected to lead it since the 80s) using slandering accusations of anti-semitism (so wild that at some point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was accused of anti-semitism in order to taint said party leader by association as they were sitting in the same panel in a conference about Palestine) that eventually caused him to lose the job and got these people (who, like the Democrats in the US, are rightwing neoliberals) back leading that party.
Further, old money in Britain quite independently of ethnicity tends to be Fascist (they’re big on Fascist tropes like “some people are born supperior to others”, “people should know their place in social hierarchy”, “the upper class are natural rulers” and so on) and there’s a lot of old money in Britain which is in families of Jewish descent, so these are naturally big supporters of the Israeli regime and the whole “good old 19th-century style ultra racist ‘civilized people amongst savages’ white colonianist project” were Genocide is but a natural “removal of the vermin”. Their power in the British system (were the elites have always had far more power than the broader population compared to the rest of Europe) in turn means most of the Press just spins things to convince the riff-raff to share that view of things, which is why even the supposedly unbiased (but not really) BBC uses tricks like the “passive voice” and “verbatum repetition of one side’s statements as truth whilst for the other side use ‘X said’” to spin the stories about the Genocide in favor of the Israeli side.
(I remember some years ago a survey of the trust in the Press by the locals in the various countries of Europe showing the UK press as one of the least trusted in Europe)
I lived in the UK for more than a decade and IMHO what we’re seeing now is that after the big demonstration with 600k people against British support of Israel, the Press is being dragged by public opinion (mainly that of the well informed section of it who have Humanist values, so basically the urban middle class) so you see coverage in Liberal media like The Guardian and the BBC change from being “the voice of Israel” to something more subtle (using the spin tricks described above and others like it to favorably portray the Israeli side but not being quite as overtly one-sided in what they chose to cover), but the more overtly right-wing tabloids couldn’t give a rat’s arse and keep on pushing the pro-Fascist side (though this being Britain, even they are significantly more smooth about it than the likes of Fox News).
instructed the IDF to show the passengers of the flotilla a video of the horrors of the October 7
This doesn’t remotely justify to do 1000x the same horrors over unrelated innocent people
If one atrocity justifies another, the atrocities won’t stop until everybody is dead.
Israel’s military has been ordered to show Greta Thunberg footage of Hamas’s Oct 7 2023 attack on southern Israel.
Just straight up showing a teenager extremely awful footage as a form of brainwashing and propaganda.
She’s 22, but still.
The message is obvious. “If somebody hurts you, then any revenge is permissible, even against people whose only sin is living near them. Even if children are starving to death, it’s okay if it’s revenge.”
The lack of humanity in Israel’s actions is simply hard to comprehend.
At this point I wouldn’t be surprised the attack was staged by Israel to be able to take the rest of the Gaza strip.
Something something suitcases of cash
Well, have a look in the old Testament, specifically Leviticus 24:17-22.
19 If anyone injures his neighbor, as he has done it shall be done to him, 20 fracture for fracture, eye for eye, tooth for tooth; whatever injury he has given a person shall be given to him.
You know the part that is shared between Christianity and Judaism.
That’s “an eye for an eye,” which is already horrible, but is not an escalation. Israel is escalating, “a genocide for a single attack.”
And if you think about it, it makes NO sense, as humanity would have to destroy themselves too finally get even. Then there’s one person left, who won the game. Now it’s game over. So dumb.
It’s not like everyone is watching a straight-up genocide or anything.
Hey, look how much less bad this resistance is to our occupation!
“Nothing justifies Oct7, but Oct 7 justifies everything”
Thunberg is not a teenager.
Yes that has already been said by pressedhams.
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They should show the part where they killed their own to prevent them from being captured.
I’m not super up on the details of this situation, but they had to know this would be the outcome, right? This was just bait, to make a point?
Their goal was to get attention, to force the media and public to start talking about it, to force western governments to pretend to care about it, ratchet up the international pressure by another notch. They have done everything they need to be successful at that. Now that they’ve been seized, it’s our jobs to do what we can to make the rest of that happen.
The aid on the ship was symbolic. This was a protest action to call attention to Israel’s continued blockade of food and other aid into Gaza.
I don’t think they believed they would be kidnapped and detained in international waters, to be fair.
I think they did believe that was a strong possibility. I thought her video was a dead man’s switch release that she would prevent from going out if they made it out of international waters.
It was. The video was released as soon as they were taken off the boat.
I don’t know why. The USS Liberty incident proved that Israel does this sort of shit.
They’re a far right government.
This is the sad part. It’s not the first and not the last time Israel has acted like this. Still, this protest is putting the media’s waning obsession with Thunberg to good use. 👍
To make a point that israel is effectly controlling and occupying gaza and to test the western governments
You say that like it’s a bad thing. Yes, this is political activism. Cameras on Thunberg, ready to document in real time how crazy the Israeli government is.
Ther’s also the socio-emotional support for Palestinians. It’s not just about material aid (though that is extremely pressing today).
Well sure, they knew this was a likely outcome - because they know the Israel government is batshit. The purpose of the mission was aid and activism. They definitely knew that arrest was likely, but that’s not why the did it. They didn’t want to be detained. They just want to help the people of Gaza in whatever way is within their power. This is how they chose to do it.
It may not be perfect, but it’s definitely more effort and effect than doing nothing. And the more people who get on board with some actions, the more likely they are to succeed.
First of all, terrible. Second, that website is horrendous.
Is it not yet time for federated news?
Agreed. I’m sure OP could’ve chosen a better report.
s/detained/kidnapped
Well, at least she made it to Palestine.
