• I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I agree with the statement, but being vulnerable IS a weakness. That’s pretty much what the definition of vulnerable is. Now, being vulnerable doesn’t make you a weak person, but it absolutely is a weakness.

    • Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      I think it’s an alternative use of the word. Being vulnerable in THIS sense is to open yourself up and expose your doubts and hard feelings.

      It doesn’t mean you don’t have boundries.

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      I’m not going to bother to downvote pseudofeminist slop, but:

      Feelings have no gender

      Feminists have invested a lot of effort into communicating to men that certain experiences and feelings thereof can only be understood by those who have undergone those experiences: emotions are absolutely gendered. To understand this very real difference is a good thing, even if it reinforces a gender binary which is largely performative.

      This post is just slop. It’s so basic online feminists can feel like they’re Doing Something about Men’s Mental Health.

      I don’t think men need flowery reminders of the way some women would prefer to imagine (read: hallucinate) masculine emotional needs.

      Man up and don’t complain about downvotes.

      • the_q@lemmy.zip
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        I’m sorry your mom/girlfriend didn’t validate your feelings at a key point in your development, bud.

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          I am presenting you with ideas which challenge you and your assumptions about how men and women can best help men, and your response is an offensive and weak insult. When I say man up I don’t mean feel less, I mean modulate your emotions like a damn adult.

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            My emotions are modulated. You’re the one that seems to be struggling here. I meant what I said and it wasn’t intended as an insult.

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              like yes I’m reacting in kind so I’m imprecise; I believe you meant what you said, but you’re stupid if you think you aren’t lashing out at me.

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              I meant what I said and it wasn’t intended as an insult.

              That’s stupid and you can’t expect me to believe that.

              Look we’re at a point in time where men are struggling and the body of thought around feminism is adapting to the challenge, poorly.

              You need to be able to talk about that without overreacting histrionically, telling me what you imagine to be wrong with me personally instead of considering what I have to say.

              You asked why it’s getting downvotes.

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    Whatever your expression of emotion is, as long as it’s not harming anyone else, is fine. Recognizing that anxiety, for example, can manifest as anger - that’s important, because that makes it so that your anger doesn’t get pointed at anyone inappropriately.

    You can’t just will your emotional reactions to manifest in different ways, but you can work to understand the roots of those reactions.

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      You can’t just will your emotional reactions to manifest in different ways

      You kinda can, it just takes a lot of effort. I had a really stressful upbringing, and so anxiety began to manifest as keen focus pretty much by necessity.

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        Sure, with a lot of effort over time. Of course people can change. I meant in the sense of “I’ll just decide to cry instead of rage now.”

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    You’re gonna have to man up even you ladies if we get to the point where we keep voting for Democrats and we find ourselves once again in another world war. Ladies, you’re gonna get conscripted too. I’m so sick and tired of fucking identity politics. Like, I don’t necessarily disagree with you about this whole meme, but at the same time, it’s this nonsense that co-opted the left. The most important thing that everybody needs to unify on is socioeconomics, and explaining how those socioeconomic issues impact the working class. We spend soooooo much time talking about penises and vaginas that now the right wing has overpowered us. And the only savior we have is the same liberal party that got us into this situation. You’re not going to wrestle these Christian bumpkins or these misogynists into your will. It’ll take a generation or two, but you definitely need to work on socioeconomics and that’s why we’re in the age of populism. But of course all you motherfuckers will say vote blue no matter who. You’d also call me Toxic and some of you used to call me a right winger. I’m so sick and tired of fucking woke. No war but the fucking class war.

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      Gracious. There’s a place for this, but it’s not here. This is c/depression_now, and we’re taking about how there are are a lot of mental barriers to men getting help.

      NOT ONLY THAT, but depression and anger are closely linked, with anger often being a symptom of depression. People experiencing major depression may feel intense and uncontrollable anger towards the world, past events, or even themselves. This anger can exacerbate depression and strain personal and professional relationships.

      You ought to consider if there may be more to the way you feel.

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      All rights are human rights. Failing to defend minorities for the sake of economics isn’t leftism, you’re just abandoning your allies as casualties of the class war.