The bill did not pass in the first stage of the law making process as all the political parties rejected it. Also, I’m very certain that even if it passed the first few hurdles, someone would make an initiative against it and that initiative would win 9 out of 10 times as most Bünzlis are serious about their privacy and would feel like their freedoms are being taken away by such a law.
Can we have technology that’s secure enough that it doesn’t matter what country we are in?
Not as long as somebody else is hosting the server.
I think you are confusing secure with available
There are several dozen paths to securely hosting on someone else’s service but they can still pull the plug on your server
If you do it right, they can image and pen test it all they want and get nothing out of it.
Just almost no one bothers to take the time
That’s you hosting the service on somebody else’s server. I meant somebody else hosting the service, which means somebody else running the software and having admin rights, and there’s no way you’re securing that.
Just almost no one bothers to take the time
Obviously. Imagine if we applied the same logic to food safety, or anything else. There’s no practical way to be self-sufficient in all aspects, and no reason we should be.
Omfg take my upvote, TAKE IT!
black box memory operations have been a thing since the late 80s my guy…
No way! Really?
Here I was thinking that people were self-hosting their services on their 386 and passing outputs via carrier pigeon.
Yes
It’s always nice to see companies claiming to care about privacy walking the walk. In this case, all the way out of Switzerland.
walking the walk
But they haven’t?
I would hope Switzerland isnt stupid enough to do this. Their reputation as a country is based around trust. Dozens of highly profitable privacy based companies would be forced to relocate.
While these companies make up a very small percentage of the GDP, they’d take people out of work, hurt their reputation, and take a minor blow to their budget.
Though, this isnt considering future prospects; the Proton suite is getter better, fast. It wouldn’t surprise me, if in a few years, their suite could rival Google’s or Microsoft’s.
It could be very profitable in the future, but kneecapping the VPN would really slow things down.
Weakening encryption, or access to it, in any way, shape or form should be seen as a violation of human rights, democracy, and national security — a crime against humanity — resulting in lifelong imprisonment.
I don’t know if you noticed but no nation is holding up to their reputation right now, even the progressive nordic ones
I am using them while I wait for Tuta drive. Tuta better hurry up.
So…… We got an alternative to Switzerland as a country? Historically I always thought they took digital privacy seriously. But it seems tides are changing.
We got any other GDPR countries as good as Switzerland? How about the Netherlands?
Or is this gonna turn into a game of finding a country that just doesn’t care about digital surveillance?
Be careful with any EU country… there’s a weekly attempt to introduce backdoored encryption, because “pedophiles” and “terrorists”.
Honestly there needs to be aggressive crackdowns on pedo-smearers
But only in some countries, not all of them accepted it
They would not stop there.
Our elected representatives are way too afraid of their citizens (which many of them would not mind if they could change those ‘citizens’ into powerless ‘subjects’), and they’ve become obsessed with the idea of surveilling our every move. An idea that has been very actively encouraged by an industry that is more than happy to sell them the required surveillance technology for a lot of money. Money always wins, freedom (which can’t stand without privacy) is screwed.
So, I already made up my mind upon the quick disappearance of any online privacy, here in the EU. The cloud I’m using (for its full encryption) won’t be able to stand against the law (and it should not). So, the moment they introduce a law to force backdoors into encryption I’ve already decided to quit using any form of online storage and as much online services as I can (one of the reasons I I went back to reading printed books—yep, I’m that paranoid save that It’s not being paranoid at all).
Those wannabe EU dictators, worrying so much about our own well-being (as no one in their right mind would express any doubt about their true motivation) they can go funk themselves.
Well, I totally understand you when it comes to using local storage and reading printed books (having physical books on bookshelf looks cool) but from what I remember only some countries decided vote for this idea
You’re right, but once a few have that law the EU is a Union (and most countries are not against controlling us), so I would not hold my breath (posted from France, so you know ;)
Same for me, if most decide that then first thing would be downloading all stuff from my clouds and removing all files online. Kinda sad to see that from one side eu tries to make ai providers unable to collect our data but eu doesn’t like us to have freedom and privacy in the internet
The alternative is to leave cloud services, use GnuPG to encrypt your mail on your device and use a VPN / TOR for any interaction with the net.
At the rate we going corporate won’t able to provide privacy if privacy becomes illegal
Self hosting is likely the only option until ice gestapo starts raiding residentces of freedom of enjoyers. Which is the likely final stop before complete re enslavement of the plebs
Not everyone lives in a pristine 1st-world country.
One of the biggest motivators behind open source privacy is that we categorically cannot trust a profit driven entity with absolute security because every business will screw over its customers for the shareholders
IDGAF how transparent or egalitarian a company claims to be, there is a dollar price on their confidentiality, and now we have billionaires that can literally meet any price
