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    21 days ago

    You don’t stamp out racism but just one sidedly declaring racism is over all of a sudden, having done nothing to address the actual harm that has been caused.

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      21 days ago

      Actually you do stop racism by stopping racism. It’s really that simple. I’ve lost patience with racists. All racists think their racism is justified. It’s not.

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        21 days ago

        Acknowledging past racism is not racism. Pretending past racism is fixed, despite not doing anything to actually fix it, is not fixing racism. It is perpetuating and entrenching racism.

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          21 days ago

          No one claimed acknowledging past racism is racism. It’s the racism I’m claiming is racist. If you don’t support racial equality, you are racist.

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            21 days ago

            Yes I agree, Act’s bill was pretending to be racial equality, which it isn’t, which is therefore racist. Glad we’re on the same page

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              Act’s bill was pretending to be racial equality, which it isn’t

              I quoted the bill above and I’ll do it again here because you seem to have an issue with reading comprehension:

              Principle 3

              1. Everyone is equal before the law.
              2. Everyone is entitled, without discrimination, to— a) the equal protection and equal benefit of the law; and b) the equal enjoyment of the same fundamental human rights

              The Bill literally, explicitly, an unequivocally calls for racial equality. There is no amount of Orwellian doublespeak you could possibly utter which could twist opposition to this as anything other than ugly racism.

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                21 days ago

                Nothing like Orwellian doublespeak than a bill that declares racism over “because I said so”

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                    20 days ago

                    The bill did not call for racial equality, it declared there is already full and complete racial equality. If there are in fact ongoing inequalities, doing this locks them in and prevents them from being addressed. That is a big difference and is one of the reasons it was so widely opposed.

                    Laws are not some magic Harry Potter spell that immediately make things true because they’re said a certain way. Youve either been taken in by this fantasy, in which case, grow up and learn something about the history of this country and how it still shapes us today, or you know what the grift is here and in which case, fuck you - you’re a facist and a racist because it’s always projection with you ghouls.

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        21 days ago

        You can’t stop racism until you address the harm it’s causing and punishing the people who are causing it. Without inflicting punishment on the people who are carrying out racism it will never stop.

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          You can stop racism right this second, by not being racist. That’s it. All that is required is that you stop hating people because of their skin colour and treat them equally in law. That you would argue against that is horrifying.

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            You can stop racism right this second, by not being racist.

            Oh wow. I didn’t know it was that easy!. Just stop being racist!.

            ll that is required is that you stop hating people because of their skin colour and treat them equally in law. That you would argue against that is horrifying.

            No fuck that. The people who are racist and who did racist things MUST BE PUNISHED. If they get away with it then racism will never end. Saying that they should get away with all their racism is disgusting and you should be ashamed of saying such things.

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              Oh wow. I didn’t know it was that easy!. Just stop being racist!.

              What do you think racism is? From Cambridge Dictionary:

              Noun: Policies, behaviours, rules, etc. that result in a continued unfair advantage to some people and unfair or harmful treatment of others based on race

              So yes, it really is as easy as stop being racist. If you disagree, explain yourself, because right now you sound like a racial supremacist.

              The people who are racist and who did racist things MUST BE PUNISHED. If they get away with it then racism will never end.

              Cool, do that. In the mean time, STOP BEING A RACIST SHITHEAD.

              Saying that they should get away with all their racism is disgusting

              I didn’t write that. You just keep making shit up because your position is so fucking gross that you can’t stand to own it for even one comment.

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                Cool, do that. In the mean time, STOP BEING A RACIST SHITHEAD.

                We punish them first. Then we make them pay reparations for every harm they causes. Once that’s all done we can talk. Until then fuck off.

                I didn’t write that.

                Yes you did. That’s what this bill for designed to do. It was designed to reward the racists and let them keep all the loot they stole.

                It was a racist bill put forward by a racist party in a racist coalition and it was defeated by the decent folk in this country.

                You lost. Keep crying.