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queeranarchism: I want white men to know that fascists will kill them.

I want ‘apolitical’ white men to know that fascists, once they have complete control of the state, will kill them. This may not seem obvious as fascists usually aren’t talking about killing you and that isn’t among their main intentions. But they will kill you.

Maybe fascists will kill you because you were disobedient. A fascist regime requires strict unquestioning obedience to an illogical ever changing doctrine that frequently bites its own tail. Maybe you’ll tweet favourably about one prominent fascist and a week later he’ll fall out of favor with fascist leadership and they will kill you. Maybe they will kill you over a thing you put on your facebook ten years ago. Maybe your death will be entirely random. Because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Fascist states control their population through terror and random death is part of that terror.

Maybe you’ll be lucky. Maybe you will be completely obedient, consequent in backing the right person as power changes and not a target of random state violence. In that case fascism will still kill you.

You see, fascism loves nothing more than war. Fascism views war as an act that makes men ‘noble’. Fascism wants nothing more than to send it’s young white men off to to fight its dreamed of ‘Total War’. No really, total war is one of the ideals of fascism. And when the young white men run out, fascism will send the older men and the children and eventually it’s entire population. And since fascism values war above all else and hardly values human life, it will not hesitate to spill your blood needlessly. In 1939 there were in Germany roughly 34 million German white men who did not belong to any targetted minority group. In 1945 roughly 5 million of these were German white men dead. Do those sound like good odds to you?

Fascism, once in power, will kill you. Now that you know this, you can prevent it by making sure fascists do not get state control and by pushing back what power they already have. Targetted minorities have been pointing out the dangers of fascism for a long time. It’s time you started listening to them. They’re fighting for your lives too.

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    I would like to add that even if you survive, your lives will still be miserable. Only the rich get richer in fascism, for example, German wages in the 3rd Reich fell down to Great Depression levels (unions were targeted first by Hitler) and people also had to work a lot more hours. After Hitler had pissed off all trade partners there was also a lot of scarcity of basic stuff - towards the end, soldier’s uniforms were literally being made out of cardboard because there was no wool left (Germany didn’t have a lot of sheep and couldn’t grow cotton).

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      towards the end, soldier’s uniforms were literally being made out of cardboard because there was no wool left

      I did not expect that part of Jojo Rabbit to be historically accurate.

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    In 1939 there were in Germany roughly 34 million German white men who did not belong to any targetted minority group. In 1945 roughly 5 million of these were German white men dead. Do those sound like good odds to you?

    “I don’t understand why people call those face-eating leopards face-eating leopards” - the “apolitical” and the centrist, moments before finding out.

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      We all know that, and they probably do too. But for most people, admitting you are wrong is harder than just death.

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    Besides the war, under fascism hunger and disease are justified to “toughen up” the “volk” and weed out the “untermenschen”. You can already see how RFK and the tariffs are setting the stage for both. Suffering will be seen as proof of your obedience, objection to the suffering will be considered disloyalty and punished.

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    When trump was elected and I was considering what countries to move I consulted a friends. He’s a progressive dude, I’m a socialist both white. Most of our political conversations revolve around whether the workers really need to own the means of production or if you just build enough, a safety net and welfare stayed on top of capitalism.

    And shrimp was elected. I was sure he would be as worried about it as I was. He tried to calm me down by jokingly saying " I’m a straight white man. What’s the worst they’re going to do? Make me marry two wives"?

    Can’t compute

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    People really need to stop writing content for the strawmen in their head. This is perfectly reasonable advice for anyone thinking they will survive fascism, not just apolitical white men.

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        I’m confused too, but I think they are on your side and their phrasing was simply “targetless” leading it to be obscure.

        Some lit person will know the right word for what I’m trying to say, help me lit people, haalp.

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          I’ve read their comment so many times, and I still don’t understand what they’re trying to say. I feel like if I could understand who the strawmen are that they’re referring to, maybe it would click for me.

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            Lots of folks are bad writers, even the ones who use writing as their primary medium.

            Small rant, I work in a technical field and the amount of technical people who do not realize how much more effective they’d be if they treated their communication as seriously as they treated ‘network communication protocols’ is far too high.

            It is quite disheartening. Then again, it took me until my late 20s to understand this… there is hope for everyone. I hope… 🤣

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              Oh believe me, it’s not just technical people! Whenever I have to rely on my co-worker’s notes or emails, I often feel completely lost and bewildered.

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              Network protocols have hard rules. People will get offended that you said “hi” wrong.

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      You’re right, this is for the white man, billionaires too. I’m sure they don’t think they’re included in this.

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    Socially, war is a way to forcefully redistribute suffering and resources. This is a somewhat old (thousands of years) cultural tradition: instead of rationing and even sacrificing (yes, voluntary human sacrifice), the sacrifice and misery is turned into this team competition. In such civilizations, it’s likely that rulers understood that they’re “culling their populations” by going to war with other elites and having this “mutual sacrifice” going on. This is more evident with colonialism and capitalism, with war being a racket in the context of catabolic capitalism.

    The reason we say “NO WAR EXCEPT FOR CLASS WAR” is, well, class war is already happening and the other forms of war are used to maintain the class hierarchy.

    (Some) leftists do have a problem with tolerating class war violence, with making up excuses. I see it with those who make up excuses for the genocide of indigenous people by the hand of settlers, miners, ranchers and others who are trying to accumulate wealth in capitalism’s rat race. So…

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    I disagree to some extent with the claim total war is integral to fascism.

    It was integral to nazism under Hitler and maybe Mussolini’s fascism (though I don’t know enough about the latter). But Franco very much did not require total war to be fascist. None of his wars were total wars as all of them were rather small and not particularly noteworthy. Even the civil war wasn’t a total war, despite its significant death toll.

    Fascism is very much hungry for wars. But there’s a bit of a “natural selection” going on where the Hitler-like total war fanatics usually last a couple of years at most while the more restrictive fascists can remain in power for many decades at least. You can see the latter with Franco’s Spain or Putin’s Russia.

    The only good thing about fascism is once the dictator dies there’s a significant risk of collapse.

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      I really want to argue, but that would result in total derailment to a minor detail that doesn’t change the points made in the post in any way, so I’ll just let people search for Franco and Putin on their own and not give it more thought or consideration

      Edit: The more I think about it, the stronger the “argument for the sake of argument” vibes I’m getting from this comment. This ain’t r/AskHistorians

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    Fascist are the useful idiots of empire. The United States financed the Nazis to fight Russia… during and after the war via the catholic church and human trafficking rat lines, they funneled Nazi scientists into the Department of Defense to build our rocket program to fight the Cold War… All the countries in the world now are capitalistic. We are in another stage of capitalism, which is still just capitalism, but it’s a stage that is trying to literally worm its way into our bodies. That’s how invasive this is. It is like we have to drink from a poisonous well, aka technology. But this well is the very thing that feeds their power. There are groups all around the world that are working together. I have yet to see any left-wing parties show any real solidarity or power, but that’s probably because of the Democratic Party, Also, Neo-liberalism is a right-wing ideology, it was a way to stop the world wars and put them on pause but not fix the ills of capitalism. You know, because now we’re in the era of state-sponsored terror, asymmetrical warfare and proxy war with a sprinkling of imperial blowback… So the imperialist empire of America has now pulled back its soft power and now is trying to implement hard power. So, if you are the left wing, it’s probably wise to not do anything rash and be a reactionary. Even though I’m a libertarian socialist, I still think that this is a time to yes, do some demonstrations, push back, and do all the normal processes. But those that are on the side of the fascist will eventually see the true colors of the fascist or the imperialist. And then you’ll have more people to work with. Because at the end of the day, democracy is a difficult thing to achieve in which the The United States has not achieved yet, ever in its history. Be weary of those that beat their chest. Most likely they are reactionary liberals or a fed honeypot trying to get you to do something stupid and I know a lot of you are young and capable of great things but some of you might still have your brain forming. They did this during the Afghan Iraq War where they would take poor Muslims who normally would never be able to achieve their goals, their terroristic plans, if they were not helped by the FBI that helped them through the process. It’s all just a dog and pony show. Performative national security, managing perception. Google “which path to Persia?” They’re going to pull the old good-cop bad-cop methodology by distancing themselves from Israel. But at the same time, supplying the tatical nuclear weapons that will be used on Iran. Google Iran or get on YouTube or whatever and look at what their lives are like. If you see, they’re just like us.